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 Post subject: Realm age limits?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:13 am 
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In Andor we don't have one but I'd be interested to know other peoples.


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In Dunharrow we follow the standard 18, or 16 with parental consent.

Certain exceptions have been made in the past. Usually family of another fighter starting as young as 13. Since the elder family member had be fighting for a long time, the parents were completely aware of what their son was getting into.

But that's a super rare exception.

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I have to disagree Im almost 14 and I can fight with the big guys, I lose, but I dont cry or anything

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congrats.

here the age limit it 15 with gaurdians permission.

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thats cool, but Id hate for us to have an official rule and I would have to leave belegarth

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Dur-Demarion allows fighters as young as 1 3 (thirteen) on the field (notarized waivers are required for anyone under 18). Our waiver doesn't detail the sport, but informs parents that injuries are a possibility. Dur-Demarion just recently increased fighting age at events to 16 (it was 13) due to problems out-of-towners were having with not wanting to injure the smaller folks.


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give your realm a pat on the back, but they shouldn't be worried about hitting smaller guys, if the smaller guys cared, they probably wouldnt have showed up

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Yep, if they love the sport enough to keep on coming, they deserve to fight.


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It has nothing to do with the smaller guys caring. It has to do with me and my realm not wanting to get sued when you get hurt and your parents get * because you were out there fighting an over 6ft tall 350 lb guy. Accidents do happen. And as a minor you do not have the coice to put yourself in harms way. Thats your parents job.

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Here in Ariel, we prefer that the fighters at least be in high school..... Although, when I started, I was only twelve years old, lol, but now I'm fifteen..... But, yeah, prefereably in high school.....

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The age minimums are not an arbitrary thing. They were put in place to help limit that amount of liability that a realm would have to be responsible for if someone got hurt.

The National age minimum is 16 with a notarized waiver.

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In Arnor our policy is:

14-15: Need waiver with parental consent (We treat the 14-15 like archers)
16-17: Need waiver with parental consent
18+: Sign for yourself

We used to use 16 as the minimum, but moved it down on the thought that our contact is no worse than high school level football. I know that my brother (Daemarth) and I could have easily played at 14.

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Yeah, some of the 13 year old boys who've come out to our field look like they're about 9. Some people's bodies grow faster than others... some 15 year olds look like they're in their twenties. It's all the individual, but rules can't be made on an individual basis. Setting the age restriction ensures equality, even though it may not seem fair.


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Location: i was thinkin about this what is time and space fuck..head explosion
also the problem with younge folk on the field is that some like me, vokor, narlagg, or lord onyx could conceivably(we would never TRy to hit someone this hard) cripple someone.Say one of is using a wood core shield and flanking. we are running and someone accidently darts in front of us. we don't have the time to stop or anything and we literally crack there skull and there like 13 or 14,instant problem. sure there are some excepttions to the rule when we where 13 or 14 WE would have been the exception but if you allow for the exception then eventually you run into some kind of legal issue i'm not a lawyer but i could forseeably see it happening

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I started fighting at 14, and I know that I could not have then taken the hits I take now. If say, for instance, Peter the Quick had hit me in the kidneys, I'd have been done for the weekend. If you're uner the age limit, and want to fight, go to national events, be cool, and watch. When you see someone doing something you'd like to do (I.E schooling people with your favorite weapon combo), ask them to spar with you on the sidelines, and show you how they do that.

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In my realm 16 is the youngest we allow people to come out and try it out, anyone under 18 must have a notarized waiver, and i prefer to talk to parents before their children become a regular fighter. The reason for these age limits in my oppion is yes, about liability. In todays sue to wealth outlook you can't be to careful, and as it has already been stated some bodies at 14 may be able to handle it, but at 16 they are just a bit more likely to take the punishment. Not to mention being able to drive, and maybe have their own money. The other reason for 16 is about maturity. Adults can be petty, but young teens are more likely to have all kinds of politics, and drama. Granted my realm was founded on the belief that we our sport should be at aleast as physical as a males highschool varsity soccer game, and preferably as physical as ice hockey (minus the fights). Alot of realms think that a high school vasity soccer game is on the fringe of extreme, and too dangerous. Different strokes for differnt folks.

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another thing to consider for national events is the night life when you get teenage boys and girls around extremely inebriated adults it's bad

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That was one of the biggest complaints at one of the events where the 13 year olds showed... since then we made it where anyone underage must be with their chaperones or in their cabins after dark or 6pm whichever comes first. We had minors walking in on people's parties with the heavy drinking... not to mention some of the nudity that was going on. There are just some things the kiddies should have to wait to participate in.


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We are trying to make belegarth a legal company, now nudity in public places ex. the parks where many events are held, is illegal therefor it should not be done, if we make ourselves a company by law, then we cannot be "above the law"

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the way you do it is to have kids fighting kids. On occation you could let one of them spar with an "elder" But it is all about kids fighting kids, not will you let a 13yo fight with the big boys?

And the events are more like a huge party and that is no place for a minor period unless the huge party mentality stops which I dought.

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savetuba is very wise
There should be a division for 13-16 year olds and then one for 17up

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Rube is cool but don't get obsessed with his awesomeness

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We are trying to make belegarth a legal company, now nudity in public places ex. the parks where many events are held, is illegal therefor it should not be done, if we make ourselves a company by law, then we cannot be "above the law"


We are not "trying to make Belegarth a legal company". Belegarth IS a legal corporation and we do require that laws be respected.

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In Shannara we allow 12 and up with a signed waiver. There are flat no exceptions to this rule about the waivers. But, if the kids can get the parents to sign the documents, let em come.

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in Numenor we want everyone to be 16 and older, the 16 to 17 year olds have to have a waver with there mom or dads sig. but for a while we keep getting crazy little kids on the side lines fighting each other. the reason we dont let young kids fight on the field is for there safty for example i have been hit just in the knee ones by this crazy asian guy and i couldn't stand on it for a while it also has happened twice.(i'm joking about the crazy asian it was kenny if you want to know)


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In Northlands we require the minor's forms be signed and notarized (I had to get this done when I first started fighting). It assures that the parrents KNOW what their kid is getting in to.

When I started fighting the rule was, and still is, 16-17 signed notarized minor waiver. 18+ sign the waiver! We'll allow younger kids to spar on the sides (that's what I had to do befor I got my waiver signed) and once made an acception for one of our fighters younger brothers.

We've looked in to starting up a kids group, and setting aside bits of practice time and instruction for them, but there has been little interrest in the past. However, some of our veterans' kids are now reaching an age where it may be a more feasable idea....

The problem I've found with allowing young children on to the battle field is they 'fly below the radar' it's easy to miss them when they're so short, and they can get run over, say by somone charging somone else, so easily.

I have no proble with kids fighting in monitored groups with their peers. Hell, I even know a few kids that could teach their own classes! I think it's a great idea to start them off safely when they're young and teach them the rules and teniques so they can be better, safer fighters when they're older.

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in Latnemir (the hailey kids) we allow 11-12 and up. If anyone in our realm is under teh age of 18 a waiver must be signed, if they are over 18, waiver is requered but of course they can sign for them selves.

We dont have many "older" fighters, im still the oldest on the field at 21. So we allow younger fighters to participate we (the older fighters) soften out blows a little bit.


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It has nothing to do with the smaller guys caring. It has to do with me and my realm not wanting to get sued when you get hurt and your parents get * because you were out there fighting an over 6ft tall 350 lb guy. Accidents do happen. And as a minor you do not have the coice to put yourself in harms way. Thats your parents job.


lol, im only 15 and i've stood up to some guys who are about that description, and the funny thing was that i beat him in our "duel" with broomstick handles, because at the time i really didnt care about getting the stuffing beat out of me. but seriously, bigger isnt always better, im like 5'9'' but fast, and in my experience, it counts alot when someones trying to swing GIANT weapons at you.

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Age limits can be a good thing, but each realm needs to make sure that the younger kids (under 13) get to fight some, too (like have a few battles each practice where the younger kids get to fight. just have the older fighters take it easy on them). I'm not saying they should be in every fight, but just enough to keep them interested.


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here we allow anyone in highschool to fight

we don't actually have a waiver, but we get in touch with the people's parents and make sure they're allowed to fight

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lol, im only 15 and i've stood up to some guys who are about that description, and the funny thing was that i beat him in our "duel" with broomstick handles, because at the time i really didnt care about getting the stuffing beat out of me. but seriously, bigger isnt always better, im like 5'9'' but fast, and in my experience, it counts alot when someones trying to swing GIANT weapons at you.


okay now this is not to come down on you man but have you ever met anyone that plays a bugbear or ogre? there are two things about those of us that play these races

1 we all tend to be very large and very strong ogres tend the lankier side and bugbears the meater one, and we have mucho skill with our weapons of choice (usually sword and board)

2 it isnt about winning or losing its about the fact the if me or vokor or lord onyx or someone of compare able size that knows how to fight,fights you then your going to get hit and it's going to hurt and we don't want to take the chance of doing permanent damage.

also i wouldnt be worried about hurting someone with my weapon but with a bash or plane just not looking and run you down. and trust me when i say it could happen, i've accidentally done it to Warlord Rache of the EBF and he's 32 so i know it could feasibly happen to a child

some of the fastest most expierenced fighters in belegarth are in my realm and well i'm sorry, if i can hit blixxx of the dark angels i'll be able to hit you to.

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Is there any realms near romeoville that allow 13 and up or something.

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here we allow anyone in highschool to fight

we don't actually have a waiver, but we get in touch with the people's parents and make sure they're allowed to fight


In sue-happy america, thats a good risk...

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Veroc wrote:
Is there any realms near romeoville that allow 13 and up or something.


Saturday: Bible Baptist Church in Romeoville, 301 Normantown Rd 11:00 AM til whenever Hosted by Muxlovia. I'm not sure what their age restrictions are, but since your parents will probably have to drive you anyways, they can sign whatever waivers needed on site.

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i fight and im only in middle school

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me too but my realm has two units, senior and junior.


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Location: i was thinkin about this what is time and space fuck..head explosion
thats a risk your realm can take just dont ask belegarth as a whole to take it

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so my microwave dinged! and before i could stop myself i asked it what level?


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If there are underage people in your realm and you worry about them getting hurt, then perhaps you can just train them to be archers, and have them always stand on the edge of the world somewhat, so then if they get rushed, they can just step off and avoid getting hit.

This way they get to fight and have fun, you get to train potentially great future archers for your unit/realm, and also there is little chance of them getting hurt until they are the right age.

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