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by **ahlwen** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:41 pm

would cloth with metal plated studed all over it count as armor?

by **Derian** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:10 pm

Yes, as long as it follows the rules.

You might try riveting plate to leather, or leather to cloth, as I've found that cloth to plate tends to result in a ripped mess of armor.

by **ahlwen** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:13 pm

but it would technacly still count correct? ... thanks for the help i apreciate it

by **Chicken** » Mon May 01, 2006 9:51 am

The Book of War wrote:3.7. Composite Armor
3.7.1. Studded, scaled, or brigandine Armor can only be counted as Armor if 2/3 of the target area is covered by metal or leather, or the studs/rings/plates can not be no more than 1/2 inch apart.
3.7.2. Composite Armor must be identifiable as Armor by appearance.

So yes, it would count, as long as you make it right. The plates (metal or leather) have to meet the appropriate armor standards that they normally would (3/16" leather, 20 gauge metal or better that's nondeformable and penny round), most of the area you're covering has to be covered in the armor-grade material, and the plates have to be relatively close together.

Good luck, and post a picture when you're done!

by **ahlwen** » Mon May 01, 2006 10:59 am

will do

by **gewin** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:18 am

hi all!
i'd like to ask your help!(i want to apology about my mistakes, but i am hungarian, and iam not very good at english)
i'd like to make a chainmale, and i'd like to ask you, to write me some links, where i can read about how to make a chainmali!
thank you onwards
by adam

by **Sir_Mel** » Tue May 30, 2006 6:40 pm

go to www.theringlord.com. They sell rings and stuff and there's a link to a simple lesson in chainmail making.

by **Lister** » Wed May 31, 2006 10:39 am

Another great stop for Chain info is http://www.mailleartisans.org/

They have something like 600 weaves not all historically accurate but still good info. They also have tutorials for doing round holes, armpit seams, etc. Great site!.

Beorn quote is:

This is the place that I found the directions to the most Ghetto armor ever... SODA TAB MAIL!

http://www.mailleartisans.org/articles/ ... gi?key=515

DIsturbing, I know. But great for kids!

by **Aperaltus** » Wed May 31, 2006 9:59 pm

You could do plate on fabric if it was heavier... I imagine that a heavy grade canvas (think of a military duffel bag) with rivets would hold up pretty well.

by **gewin** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:27 am

hi!
thank you for the answers!!!!!!

by **Dabbanoth** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:47 pm

maybe the nylon stuff they use in tents?

by **Syrus** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:09 pm

Dagganoth wrote:maybe the nylon stuff they use in tents?

No way in hell. One hole (such as one for a rivet) ruins the strength of nylon cloth. Even rip-stop needs to be sewn the right way to avoid ripping through.

Non-art canvas, or the heavy linen used in tents is the least that you'd need.

by **Dabbanoth** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:11 pm

no, the really really thick kind, like for those everest-climbers tents, designed for keeping ALL the heat in its heavy and kind of rubbery

by **Sir_Mel** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:42 pm

Dagganoth wrote:no, the really really thick kind, like for those everest-climbers tents, designed for keeping ALL the heat in its heavy and kind of rubbery

ummm...still no. That wouldn't work. Why do you think any kind of camper/climber gets really * and is always really careful about making sure there are no holes in their tents. This is because once the hole starts, it's really easy for it to get bigger. Now, if you have a whole bunch of wholes in this material and had metal plates hangin out of all of them, this piece of armor would fall apart before you could even wear it.

Also, where would you get a large supply of this material for low $$$? The only way I could think of is to rip it from one of the tents you speak of and that would cost way more money than it's worth.

by **Dabbanoth** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:45 pm

wholesale companies online, thats where im going to start ordering my foam from, im sure i could find one that sells that kind of stuff

by **Chicken** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:54 am

Dagganoth wrote:[...] designed for keeping ALL the heat in its heavy and kind of rubbery

Hot, heavy, rubbery armor, exactly what this sport has been missing. Or wait, no.

On a more productive note, if you use canvas or another heavy, looseweave cloth for a backing material, you can use a marlinspike:

(the part on the right)
to punch holes in the cloth for rivetting without actually breaking the fibers so much, which'll make it much stronger and less likely to tear around the rivets.

by **Dabbanoth** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:57 am

ah... i didnt exactly factor in the exceeding sweat-factor in the stuff, on second though, canvas does seem like it would work better...

by **vek** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:01 pm

I have leather drying on my arm right now, when can i tell its done?

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