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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Nekka » Sun Mar 01, 2009 2:23 am

That looks amazing fr a rough draft. Lol and is that actual cloth? Geez, I really need to get some stuff together. I feel like I'm slacking X3.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Rasheab » Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:47 am

That looks pretty cool Tails. I would almost forgo the "eye" in theory; it might clutter up the design to much.

Question regarding "ranks:" do you really want to be all upfront visually about who is in charge? Really, a group of animals should have already worked out hierarchical issues, and if they need a visual reminder of who is in charge, it means the leader is probably going to get challenged shortly anyway. When it comes to dealing with outsiders, it's really going to be about personality for the leadership, stepping up to bat. (That is, of course, if you want to work from the RP/personality side of this, which I would assume is the point in this kind of unit.)
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Tails » Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:11 am

I don't think anyone needs to know what is going on in our sub unit, but us. Thanks for the feed back on the belt flag. its just "Black Duck" and "Red Broad Cloth" I tried the "eye" and it is just really difficult to make an eye out of fabric, which is why, If I had a vote, I would go with the simpler design that I have shown you guys.

*add* it also looks better in person, the camera I am using is pretty ****.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Forkbeard » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:50 am

Are you guys gonna wear furry animal costumes?
Please say yes please say yes.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Rose » Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:42 pm

Lol. Are you asking if you can pull their tails? Don't forget that you cannot initiate grapples with an unarmored furry. ^_~
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Nekka » Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:56 pm

It's not a requirement buuuut it wouldn't be long before someone did so maybe.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Tails » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:46 pm

so is thing official? anyone?
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Rasheab » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:00 pm

*refuses to stand next to anyone wearing a "furry" costume*

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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Tails » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:17 pm

agreed, but i think that that was a joke.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Rasheab » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:20 pm

I hope Tails, I hope. (But I wouldn't put money on it personally.)
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Nekka » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:30 pm

Well I'm definitely in with this many. We pretty much have the whole upper ranks. All we need is some recruits and what not.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Rasheab » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:42 pm

By "recruits," you mean people to bulk out the unit #'s wise, correct? (As opposed to "recruits" meaning people to fill up lower ranks.)

Presuming the former, if you build it, they will come. Alot of people like this sort of thing (even if they won't admit it). Be cool, and people will appear.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Tails » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:00 pm

Nice, I'm editing my Unit status
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Rose » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:20 pm

I think that, with this unit official, you guys will have to deal with garb rules. I'm pretty sure that full costumes will not count as garb. Tails, I don't think anyone will kick you off the field for it; ears, maybe. I would also advise against stuff beyond that since this is (correct me if I'm wrong) a shapeshifter unit and not a furry unit (though you may be known as the latter).

Tails, I really liked the belt flag you made. I put my pencil down when I saw that post because, as nice as it is to have a symbol, the simplicity of the three slashes was, in my mind, just right. It looks good, is easy to do, and fits the unit well. I'll still post the second design if you guys are interested, but I would vote for the one Tails made.

My best wishes to the new unit. I hope things continue to progress smoothly. I'll keep an eye out for you guys at events, though I don't know if I should be looking for slashed belt flags or tails.

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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Black Cat » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:44 pm

I plan on wearing kitty ears and a nekomata tail once I find a way to make them, but I wouldn't be caught dead in a furry suit. So that means that once my kit is complete, I'll be wearing ears and a tail plus unit heraldry with my garb. No more, no less.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Tails » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:14 am

just because I sympathize with furries dose not make me one. you will not find me in one fur suit. Though I plan on making some werewolf garb, which will look like ****, and then by the 4th attempt it will look good.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Nekka » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:21 am

Rasheab wrote:By "recruits," you mean people to bulk out the unit #'s wise, correct? (As opposed to "recruits" meaning people to fill up lower ranks.)

Presuming the former, if you build it, they will come. A lot of people like this sort of thing (even if they won't admit it). Be cool, and people will appear.


Yeah, basically we're going to be filling positions in from the top down. Having a unit full of grunts leave too big of a gap in ranks.
It's nice to see everyone's enthusiasm is through the roof. If we keep things steady and nonchalant it should go pretty far.

Tails and ears are fairly basic and a pretty good idea. Another is for those who are able to is to make a helmet. That would double as "armor" (arrows and javies*right* XD) as well as racial representation. As could any piece of armor if colored correctly.

Tails' flag looks like it's winning favorites among everyone. But should we keep it just for flags (which I've been meaning to make a big flag too) or incorporate this into the unit emblem (or have completely different symbols)? For things like garb. I just feel it wouldn't be complete without claws. The belt flag though should be simple so its easy to "mass produce." (XP Jumbled mess, my bad)
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Nekka » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:27 am

Tails wrote:just because I sympathize with furries dose not make me one. you will not find me in one fur suit. Though I plan on making some werewolf garb, which will look like ****, and then by the 4th attempt it will look good.


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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Rose » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:40 am

Lol at the fursuit ban. Didn't even put it up for debate XD (I find this funny even though it would never have stood a chance).

I think the three slashes should be incorporated into the main symbol. What you could do is have the pawprint on the top layer, the slashes running through it, and show claw tips (paint) making those slashes. Just an idea.

Tails, you can get a white fox tail and rabbit fur for pretty cheap. I've seen some canidae head skins sold at the Bristol Renn Faire, too. The tail will be about the most expensive piece. I'd love to see the finished werewolf garb since I'm big on costume design.

And I agree that you can sympathize with furries and not be one. My stance is, if you're into that, cool - it's just not my thing. There are weirder fetishes out there, and there are other things in the world to be anti about. As far as I'm concerned, you can wear a tail and not be a furry, though most people will assume so.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Nekka » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:51 am

Heh..."Fetish can be described as sex you like and I don't."
Respect the quote. Its from [url="www.3quarksdaily.com"]3quarksdaily[/url].

And wow lol. I haven't even had the chance to pick up a pencil and paper. I'll see if I can come up with anything tomorrow. I have study hall so I should get something done.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Rasheab » Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:02 am

Ok, to be serious for a moment, there are some decent people who are furries. (I had a friend come out of the fur closet last year.) From a completely practical standpoint, you can't see crud in those suits and you'll litterally die of heat exhaustion. So when I say I won't stand next to one, it's because I don't want someone who is stupid enough to try and wear it on a battle field watching my back (also "Disney" suits kinda creep me out, but that's another matter). And that is enough on that topic.

I'll support anyone with what they want to wear, so long as they are a good person. Monsters in Belegarth, Fairies at renaissance faires. It's all the same to me. I dislike how people sometimes generalize regarding people who have a strong affinity/connection to animals, which is a part of most cultures throughout the world to a greater or lesser extent.

I like Tail's flag. I don't have an opinion yet about extending it (or not) to unit emblems, large flags, and what have you. When I have a bit of free time, I'll probably be drawing up a draft for a wolf symbol. Though we'll have to see what we end up wanting to do regarding different symbols/combinations.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Nekka » Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:08 am

Ok, I'm gonna throw this out there already. I'm a furry. And the only reason that rule (pretty much rule#1) is harsh is to prevent any stupidity as far as harm to one's self. As far as vision goes, it's best to be able to see all you can.

I have about an hour and a half of sitting around in class so I'll probably come up with a few new ideas.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Rasheab » Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:18 am

Rasheab wrote:You can't see crud in those suits.

You'll litterally die of heat exhaustion.

I'll support anyone with what they want to wear [off the field], so long as they are a good person.


*points* People are people. And if they can fight, more the better.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Tails » Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:45 am

Rasheab wrote:*points* People are people. And if they can fight, more the better.


What do you mean by that?
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Quickie » Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:46 pm

he means.... if your a furry fine, dont bring it on the feild its stupid. will get you hurt, by yorself or others.

that doesn't mean your a bad person.

with that said id like to stray away from this furry thing. weither you like or not.
this is not the place to put... seriously.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Tails » Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:54 pm

seconded, the battle ground is not a time to be expressive of your personal interests, unless you get a boner for murder
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Atman » Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:47 pm

;and there's my cue......
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Tails » Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:56 pm

lol
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Rasheab » Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:08 pm

It means that in life, people are going to do whatever it is they are going to do (life choices, hobbies, friends, etc). So kick * while your doing it. Pretty litterally, in the context of our organization.

And right Quickie, Recruitment Board isn't the place for such discussions. (Though it was inevitable it would come up at some point, and need to be addressed.) Let us all endeavor to stay on topic here on out.

OR... :exclaimation: Nekka, one way or another your going to stick with this project, correct? Why don't you message Bortas and ask him to set up a board for the Unit?
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Tails » Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:14 pm

seconded
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Nekka » Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:57 pm

OK the fur stuff aside, it's just being draged on.
Good idea Rasheab. I'll get on that ASAP.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby crow » Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:25 pm

very intersting nekka i would like to see this come to full bloom i myself will help from a distance but i am looking to join my fellow orcs (as i am newly one and ready to get barreled lol) but anyway you know how to find my i am a practice lol
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby crow » Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:25 pm

very intersting nekka i would like to see this come to full bloom i myself will help from a distance but i am looking to join my fellow orcs (as i am newly one and ready to get barreled lol) but anyway you know how to find my i am a practice lol
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby The Great Gigsby » Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:59 pm

This unit is a bad idea for all of the reasons that have been stated and for reasons that are inherent with it's membership.

Skaven and Gnolls have already set the precedent for beast-like monsters and will always be better than your band of merry furries and weaboos. But just to be nice, I designed a new heraldry for you guys. I encourage you all to wear it at events so we can know who you are.

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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Tails » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:17 am

Giggles wrote:This unit is a bad idea for all of the reasons that have been stated and for reasons that are inherent with it's membership.

Skaven and Gnolls have already set the precedent for beast-like monsters and will always be better than your band of merry furries and weaboos. But just to be nice, I designed a new heraldry for you guys. I encourage you all to wear it at events so we can know who you are.



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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Spike » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:35 am

Man, I really had to dig for this old PSA.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Akbar the Foul » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:48 am

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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Nekka » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:17 am

Uhhuh...well now Giggles (and all others). With all due respect:

First of all nothing has been set in stone yet. So I don't really see any reasons why this is a bad idea so far. So enlighten me.
Membership. I didn't say it's strictly a shapeshifter/"furry" unit. A kind of guaranteed acceptance was if your race had fur. Very vague statement that will most likely be taken as "furry." (Neat Furry Star of David...I'll find a use for that some where.)

Skaven and Gnoll. I respect that, honest to *insert religious figure*. But what I'm trying to do is start a new, beast uprising kind of thing. Sure odds are this is going to die, but it also might become something big. A kind of three-way balance with orcs and humans. The cast of this thread that support the idea may be a bit rag-tag. Which might not be giving it the best rep, but it just proves people have an interest.
And then there are those who want to destroy this idea before it see's it's first event. But at least it wasn't shot down on the first reply. Is it because they don't like change? Is it because they feel threatened? Concerned, maybe, that this pseudo-furry based unit will attract to many pansies that couldn't swing a stick to save their sorry asses to the sport? I'm among the top 5 fighters in my realm, including Ryu (who visits often). And I've seen a local "unit" formed called The Ninth Legion, and so far they only have 1 maybe 2 real fighters, the rest are a sorry bunch of nerds who need some one to huddle around because they can't make a stand alone.

All I'm saying is. If you're willing and able to fight and looking for a unit for beasts, that would be us. I'm a fur, and I'm all right with other furs joining. But Belegarth and furry are two separate things and in the most serious of either matter should stay that way.

Hell, being a gnoll yourself, I figured you would at least show some respect. I actually started to look up to you in a way even if we haven't met. I've always though gnolls were B.A. I guess. Would it offend you if I said I wanted to be one? I know, I'm one of the weirdest people around. But does fact that the better part of this thread was about agreeing that "fur suits are a no-no" and one person (ME) saying they're a fur make everyone assume I'm trying to start a Fur only unit? Because I'm not.

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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Rose » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:22 am

Giggles, I also take severe offense to your post, and ask you to remove it.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Nekka » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:36 am

Tails wrote:
Giggles wrote:This unit is a bad idea for all of the reasons that have been stated and for reasons that are inherent with it's membership.

Skaven and Gnolls have already set the precedent for beast-like monsters and will always be better than your band of merry furries and weaboos. But just to be nice, I designed a new heraldry for you guys. I encourage you all to wear it at events so we can know who you are.



MY great grandparents were killed in the holocaust. I find your post highly offensive. I make Jew jokes too, but that is several steps too far. And I would side with furries ten times faster then I would with you antisemitic *.


Um...alright. * I have to many skeletons in my closet. Ich hasse Jude wie die pest? Sorry tails, but Jew jokes are hilarious. And you don't need to be so offended if you're not a fur. That's like taking a bullet for stranger. No real offense, but I'm the only fur here and that badge is funny. You can speak for others though. I'm sure 7 out of 10 will still get mad at it.

And that "psa" gives me nightmares. A bunch of fat fur guys (I swear they sound retarded) sitting on...what is that a bed or a couch or something...surrounded by stuffed animals? I mean, even the furryfandom hates some of its members. Hmmm...funny though how that one pulls out a Tails plush.

Rose wrote:Giggles, I also take severe offense to your post, and ask you to remove it.


Whoa now! Geez, sure its offensive. But it's only offensive if you let them know it is.
Everyone just take a breath and relax. It's the internet, it was bound to happen somewhere.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Rasheab » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:52 am

Rasheab wrote:Though it was inevitable it would come up at some point, and need to be addressed.

*points at Giggles* Enough said.

Giggles, since this is the internet, I'm just going to go with a simple "Don't be an idiot."
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Juicer » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:57 am

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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Rasheab » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:07 am

Yeah. I'm so glad we were able to stay on topic. Woot.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Juicer » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:14 am

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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Nekka » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:18 am

Thank you Juicer for giving everyone a visual. **** hilarious. I mean it. I hate when people get offended on the internet and have to answer back with a "I'm offended" post. It's annoying flooding of internet-tears. The Main Idea drowned a few posts back and I'm debating on wither I should try to rescue the limp, mangled body. But that would mean I would have to risk myself. And I DON'T want to drown in fail.
If it offends you get over it. This is why we always end up off topic. This should become a new section of the board titled: "Teh m0st ranDom **** U evar la1d ur eyz on!!!1!!one"
I'm not sure I should say sorry, because I'm not feeling sorry. How can you not find this stuff funny? The Furry Jew Badge? The comic Juicer shared with us that was probably drawn by that black kid who loves coloring?

We're only off topic because some people are offended and don't know how to not say anything! It's easy! Just don't type anything. Self control, you should be mature enough. AND NO! I'm not offended I'm annoyed!

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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Rasheab » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:22 am

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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Nekka » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:24 am

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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Tails » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:22 am

trolling and causing butthurt is only a viable internet tactic if people don't know you you are. In all other cases, such as these, there is a line. Normally on other forums where I don't have to defend what I think should be, but as much as I enjoy a good jew joke, but like I said earlier, there is a line and giggles has crossed it. Nekka, if you know what that symbol means, and I think you do, then you would know that it dose not only apply to you.

As far as Gnolls, I loled that you would actually would look up to them, being run as a monarchy, under the leadership of a guy with a sharp stick up his a**. B.A? Please, their pseudo masculinity antics make me giggles.

True B.A. (to me) means not giving a f*** about what people tell you to do. Getting to my next topic of thought. Nekka, saying that, "First of all nothing has been set in stone yet." is the first step to backing down. I hope you don't back down but when you let up like this you make me worry, I thought being fur, that you would be fine for criticism, don't let up this is a good Idea, and if you are not going to go through it then I will.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Akbar the Foul » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:32 am

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Also, Rose and Tails, nobody gets a free pass for their ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, religion or nationality. If one can be mocked, then all shall be mocked.

This entire thread is a horrific failure and should be moved to the roleplaying forum where it will be shaved and deloused with Zyklon-B to prevent further contamination to the board.
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Re: New Beast Unit? (Untamed)

Postby Tails » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:54 am

I have to disagree, while this is being a tread on the recruitment board, I think it would be ill advised to be posting such material. I think it might drive off possible new members. that being said this might be better put in another board. I wouldn't like it if some new member thought that we were all insensitive bastards.
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