Geocaching
Posted:
Sun May 12, 2013 11:39 am
by Teej
I posed the idea that we recruit via Geocaching down in Florida. We're not recruiting for any one org, we're sending them to the Florida Foam-Fighting website which presents the state's 5 organizations in a neutral manner (we all work together anyway ~75% of our events are cross-gamers).
It basically has stuff like this to explain the difference and encourages them to try it all out:
Anyway, we have business cards, t-shirts, and we're waiting on the website to be completed to release it all.
The business cards along with a finder's list will be going into caches around Florida.
I figured it was be a good demographic for us to raise awareness with... the "Geocaching type" being adventurous and I assume the outdoorsy types. And we're exposing them to the full picture instead of biased parks.
Re: Geocaching
Posted:
Sun May 12, 2013 12:22 pm
by Sir Thurat
Nice chart, Teej. There's some folks working on something similar here in Illinois, and I think they'd be interested in doing a similar breakdown for our region. It's always cool to see stuff coming out of Florida; someday I may even get to fight some of you guys.
On a recruiting level, I've heard two sides to the inter-organization effort argument:
One side claims that by turning members on to other organizations, we weaken our own organization, and that we should be more focused on getting them to do (your organization here).
On the other hand, some say that by working in this way we can evaluate new comers, and try and hook them up with the organization we think would work best for them, and thus strengthen foam fighting as a whole.
Given that you guys have such a wide variety of organizations, and are so tightly packed, how have you found that argument has panned out?
Re: Geocaching
Posted:
Sun May 12, 2013 5:37 pm
by Tails
I do like that chart . . .
What's that roleplaying by rank mean?
Re: Geocaching
Posted:
Mon May 13, 2013 3:05 pm
by Teej
Tails, RP by rank is basically my way of rating which of the orgs has more roleplay LOCALLY. 1 being the highest, 5 being the lowest.
Thurat, I've actually seen both manifest in this cross-gamer state; however, the positive benefits outweigh the rest.
Belegarth has declined in the state, mostly due to external factors. The flip of the Southern Marches left us 12 hours to the nearest national event and other realms 12 hours from us. At the same time, the Lowlands Realm that was once the only major foam-combat in the state, kind of faded as Dag Chapters were popping up EVERYWHERE. I actually have a little study I did that showed that Florida (which had ~4 years of development at that time) doubled in number in 2009 after Rolemodels released (Nov 2008). These were ALL Dag Chapters. At the current moment there is 1 unofficial Belegarth field in the state; the majority of the Lowlands realm (the remainder of OG FL Belegarth) now practice at Dag fields. We started hosting Dag battles because we'd get more national fighters from Dag. We still do the occasional Bel as well.
Overall... foam-fighting has improved vastly. Our flagship event in the state Summer Slaughter went from 70 to 180 in a single year. Way of the Sword Campouts went from ~300 to 450 in a single year. Both of these growths come from cross-gaming and some out-of-state marketing efforts.
The FFA (our neutral cross-gaming organization) pretty much ushered in a new era down here. We've gone from 2-3 events a YEAR, plus maybe 2 "local" out of state events in GA. To months where there are ~3-5 events. I have to choose between events some weekends -- there is a minimum of 2 events a month down here. Dag and Tsuki host monthly day battles.
It brought Bel/Dag together; you can't really tell the difference in the fighters... but of my 51 events, I'd say at least 30 are Dag.
Amtgard pretty much keeps to themselves down here. We've been trying to play nice for a while now. Our games and cultures are just vastly different. The local Amtgard fighters are an older and more "cultured?" group. Because... when WotS formed, a lot of their younger fighters left. So it ended up being 2-3 major fighting companies down here and a LOT of A&S.
Florida was unique in that the largest and most successful organization in the state was a 3rd party org called Way of the Sword (WotS). It's basically to Amtgard what Belegarth is to WotS. They split off. Except over time, WotS shifted to being more like Bel/Dag except... no garb requirements, super lax safety standards in weapons and other equipment, and legal headshots with melee weapons.
When we arrived at WotS, it looked like this:
Re: Geocaching
Posted:
Mon May 13, 2013 3:12 pm
by Teej
PS. There's a WotS campout at the end of this month. I'll post pictures to show how much it's progressed since that video.
Re: Geocaching
Posted:
Tue May 14, 2013 12:19 pm
by Sir Anastasia
"Originally, fighting in WotS was compared to playing Dynasty Warriors... their isolationism really limited their development as fighters." LOL...so true! This even happens to me at times with our local LARPs and I really suck!
I just wanted to say that I really admire everything that you have done for the sport in your region. If we ever get to meet, I'd love to get you a drink. I really like everything here, and I think this might be the best way to do it. Don't create false differences, explain everything truthfully, and get people to the organization that suits them all while encouraging cross-gaming to have large events. We do this in our area with California Foam Fighters and have also seen success and attendance increases that mimic your findings. Thank you again for the great work, for reaching out to organizations that need help, and for giving them unbiased information.
The sport does well because of people like you and this mentality is what will keep us growing in the future.