Belegarth

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:05 am**

In a recent raid, the Frostbrew (FB) and Frostlands Line Proper (FLP) achieved some good line tactics because we have been drilling for about 2 years now on it. The FLP is still stuck in the triple rank routine, but they are competent and mobile enough to make it work, despite archery, magic, and no shield bashing/charging. The FB try such tactics as the wedge, and echelon left and right maneuvers to guide the enemy into a kill sack, and they fell for it every time, even when they tried to toilet bowl. It's all about occupying the ground, and controlling the enemy's movement.

We crushed the enemy, and we have found that the other groups have begun practicing line tactics as a result, and have handily spanked us in a few outnumbered skirmishes later on using these tactics.

In conclusion: FROSTBREWWW!!! KILL SACK!!! FROSTBREEEEWWW!! KILL SACK!

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:51 pm**

Kind of a derail, but there a lot of ways you can fix **** res battles.

- Limit the number of times an individual can resurrect so that there's an eventual end to the scenario and less general flailing
- Establish a death count. Even better, just have the dead resurrect at the same time (like at 100 second intervals). People can take a water break and reorganize their teams.
- God forbid there should be a scenario involved (king of the hill, capture the flag, bridge battle)

But I imagine res battles happen the way they do because people enjoy them for whatever reason or they're just the status quo.

Posted: **Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:35 pm**

At major Dagorhir events we never do just straight resurrection battles. They make everyone tired and no one happy. We always use scenarios, like holding areas to score points, advancing the line of battle into enemy territory, capturing flags, and of course a "death tax" battle (the team that gets killed the most loses).

Posted: **Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:44 pm**

Wisp wrote:Heres my random scatter shot thoughts on this topic:

Getting foam groups to do unit level tactics isn't going to happen anytime soon.

The reason being is because the average foam fighter seems to have ADD and getting them to focus on anything but the shiney kill in front of them is akin to hearding cats.

Will

Translation for truth.... :devil:

Ditch FTW! F the magic, F the projectiles, F the toilet bowl. Get down with the Ditch! The one thing I'd like to see in ditching is red weapon effects on shields.
If you want to see ditching at 4 a.m. come to World Banner Wars in Oct in Tejas. Its off the farken hook. Fast, pipe swingin fools.

Loptr

Posted: **Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:46 am**

I am the instrutor liason for SKBC and I came here to post a quick SKBC update but the discussion of team fighting was almost more interesting. Still, I will post what I came for.

Just a teaser. I have invited over 30 of Amtgtard's best fighters to instruct and an addtional three instructors from Belegarth to come as guest instructors. The three invites from Bel are well known in their organiztions and have been vetted by at least one member of the FWACK organizing committee. I dont expect all of these people to be able to show but I am sure we will have a great instructor team.

I will be finalizing the instructor list this week and next and we will hammer out a schedule the weekend of the 24th. Give our web master one week from then to get the site up and running and you will be able to register before the end of January. When that happens I will post a link here as well since we welcome participation from all foam fighters.

Posted: **Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:04 am**

Bump!

Posted: **Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:54 pm**

I keep trying to convince people up here to go, and they keep saying that its all tap fighting and they don't care to learn bad habits. Gotta love stereotypes that are wrong.

Posted: **Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:01 pm**

tell them they are very wrong, i'm going, so if they think i'm a tap fighter then then should come pay me a visit and i'll show them otherwise.

Posted: **Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:35 pm**

I'm hoping to go. If anything I'll be there for at least Saturday.

Posted: **Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:39 pm**

Varadin wrote:I keep trying to convince people up here to go, and they keep saying that its all tap fighting and they don't care to learn bad habits. Gotta love stereotypes that are wrong.

I wouldn't worry about it overmuch. Your average Belegarthian hits harder than your average Amtgardian in the eastern area. The core Texas fighters hit as hard (and harder, in some cases) than your average Belegarthian. The skills, however, are universally applicable no matter how hard you are swinging.

I recommend coming down, learning some good stuff, and adapting it to best suit your needs.

And then school the crap out of the people who didn't go and make fun of them for missing out

Posted: **Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:32 pm**

Brennon EH wrote:
Varadin wrote:I keep trying to convince people up here to go, and they keep saying that its all tap fighting and they don't care to learn bad habits. Gotta love stereotypes that are wrong.

I wouldn't worry about it overmuch. Your average Belegarthian hits harder than your average Amtgardian in the eastern area. The core Texas fighters hit as hard (and harder, in some cases) than your average Belegarthian. The skills, however, are universally applicable no matter how hard you are swinging.

I recommend coming down, learning some good stuff, and adapting it to best suit your needs.

And then school the crap out of the people who didn't go and make fun of them for missing out

well put =)

Posted: **Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:37 pm**

*sobs* Why is Connecticut so far away from everything?!?

Posted: **Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:35 pm**

i thought you were in ky.

Posted: **Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:43 am**

KY is my ancestral home. I'm there during breaks. CT is where I'm (hopefully) getting my doctorate.

Then I can get the heck back out of this cold-ass place.

But naw, if I was in KY at the time, I'd definitely make it to Ohio for a badass event. But Ohio's like an 11 hour drive from CT.

Posted: **Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:56 pm**

right on, good luck with the phd

Posted: **Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:21 am**

I'm 80% sure I'll be able to go!
So, this will be my first time at SKBC, so what should I expect?
Does it cost extra to bunk in the lodge vs setting up a tent?

there are only 2 days of classes. Are the classes on Fri/Sat and thurs/Sun are used as set up/tear down days?

is it recommended to fill all time slots each day? or should one plan an empty 'break' time slot?

sorry I sound like a 5 year old with all these questions!

Posted: **Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:27 am**

yea thursday and sunday are arrive and tear down days

Take the classes you wanna take. there will be sparing and pickup battles (ditching) all day everyday.

i don't know about the lodge vs tent deal, brennen or micheal could probably answer that question for you

Posted: **Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:29 am**

megs wrote:I'm 80% sure I'll be able to go!
So, this will be my first time at SKBC, so what should I expect?
Does it cost extra to bunk in the lodge vs setting up a tent?

there are only 2 days of classes. Are the classes on Fri/Sat and thurs/Sun are used as set up/tear down days?

is it recommended to fill all time slots each day? or should one plan an empty 'break' time slot?

sorry I sound like a 5 year old with all these questions!

The posts I have seen indicate there is limited lodge space, camping space and hotels nearby. The hotels obviously will cost more. As I read the details there is no extra cost for camping/lodge.
Take a class every slot, to maximize your bang for the buck. There is a bit of time between classes and time for ditching around lunch time.
The event autocrate and crew will be handling site prep issues.

Make a post on the ESam SKBC forum for more details.
http://www.electricsamurai.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=14

Cya there,

L

Posted: **Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:30 pm**

What 'kingdom' should I put in for the E-sam board?

Posted: **Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:20 am**

Belegarth, your Belegarth Kingdom (if any), or Northlands

Posted: **Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:04 pm**

bangor wrote:Belegarth, your Belegarth Kingdom (if any), or Northlands

it wouldn't accept any of those, lol

EDIT
I got it, or rather, I got it to accept 'dragonspine'

Posted: **Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:28 am**

That isn't what kingdom YOU are from, that is what kingdom RANDALL is from. It's just a security feature to prevent spam bots from posting on the forum. The answer (Dragonspine) is to the left of the box in parenthesis.

for 'location', you can put anything you want.

Posted: **Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:57 pm**

Megs and anyone else interested, I gave a temporary answer to him on E-Sam. (link above). I will post the final answer here and there by the end of the week.

Posted: **Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:28 pm**

Thank you Michael!

Posted: **Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:21 am**

Megs and everyone else,

If you want a spot the lodge, it doenst cost any more but you do have to prepay for the event with paypal for the lodge spot. Read all our revised details on the website here:

Thanks for your patience.

http://www.swordknight.com/?MODE=siteinfo

Posted: **Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:03 am**

megs wrote:Thank you Michael!

Posted: **Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:43 am**

Anyone confirmed coming from Iowa this year? I'm trying to figure when/how/if I can pick up my car from near Cedar Falls (Nan Belegorn) and drive it back to the west coast.

Posted: **Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:59 pm**

No one from NB, unfortunately.

Posted: **Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:22 pm**

I have my flight booked.

My wifey and I are a go.

GO TO SKBC!

L

Posted: **Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:01 pm**

hell yea, its gunna be awesome!

Posted: **Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:50 pm**

Peter I can not allow you to go this, if you improve it will up set the balance of the foam-fighting world the word itself could be in danger.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:07 pm**

That's why I'm going too. I will return balance to the force. :wizzard:

Posted: **Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:41 am**

The real risk is that since they are both teaching, Amtgarders like me might learn something new and useful. That could really endanger the world.

Posted: **Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:02 am**

We can only teach you how to shield rake people, edge them in the chest, kick them to the ground, hit with excessive force, and not take light shots.

Your new favorite weapon combination will be fury and fear.

Prepare to be a God.

Posted: **Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:58 am**

Is there anyone from Columbus that's going to SKBC for sure? Winfang mentioned that Madog might be going but I'd like to confirm.

I'm asking because I'm probably going to be flying into CMH Thursday night and I was hoping I could catch a ride from somebody. Shoot me a PM if you can help me out.

Thanks,
Mel

Posted: **Fri May 01, 2009 6:23 pm**

I am also still unconfirmed in the ride department, arriving in Columbus around 1pm Thursday May 7th.

Posted: **Fri May 01, 2009 7:48 pm**

I'm not sure if I can swing a 2 hour drive to the airport and then another hour to the site on a Thursday. Let me know if you still don't have a ride next week and I'll see what I can do.

Posted: **Fri May 01, 2009 7:56 pm**

Push come to shove, you can hitch a ride with me late Thursday night

Posted: **Fri May 01, 2009 9:32 pm**

Brennon,

Since your in such a generous mood, will you swing through St Louis and pick up me and Keonee on your way to SKBC? I don't wanna spend the gas money.

Will

Posted: **Fri May 01, 2009 10:12 pm**

Pfft.

Posted: **Sat May 02, 2009 8:23 am**

Anyone coming from the East that might need a ride? I'll be going through Pittsburgh, and, um, Harrisburg.

Posted: **Sun May 03, 2009 5:01 pm**

Wisp wrote:Brennon,

Since your in such a generous mood, will you swing through St Louis and pick up me and Keonee on your way to SKBC? I don't wanna spend the gas money.

Will

I so wish I could hop in with you guys next weekend, but it just isn't going to be able to happen.

Posted: **Sun May 03, 2009 7:15 pm**

If anyone who's driving threw northern or middle Illinois wants to organize a carpool, please PM me.

Posted: **Mon May 04, 2009 8:25 am**

I am SAD, I have no money and now have a mysterious rib injury (been eating vicodin like candy and all it does is take the edge off, constant pain and I'm almost out of vic...meaning i may have to go to the Dr...booo...)

I'm down to about 50% sure I'll be there and *!
I'm soo excited about this and it may not happen!

just me venting
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Belegarth

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