Belegarth

by **Brennon EH** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:56 pm

What: First Annual Lord of War Festival
When: 9-3-2009 through 9-7-2009 (Labor Day Weekend)
Where: Location to be determined. Will be either St. Louis or Chicago.

Goal: To provide a common framework for Amtgard, Belegarth, and Dagorhir fighters to enjoy a weekend of intense fighting.

I think we (Amt/Bel/Dag) have made some really excellent steps towards cross-gaming and understanding each other over the last several years. Many of us have had an excellent opportunity to meet new people, enjoy new experiences, and be introduced to new concepts by participating in the other sports. It is, I think, the right time to start a new tradition of all the foam sports coming together to celebrate our common interests and enjoy friendly competition and camaraderie.

For this event we will be using a simplified hybrid system for combat very similar to Belegarth. Specific rules will be available as they are firmed up, but basic highlights are as follows:
1. Sufficient force will be in effect, and orientation on what that means will be run so that there is a clear understanding of what that means.
2. Weight minimums will not be in effect for equipment so that everybody may use their own gear.
3. Grappling will be allowed for gear, but not for people.
4. Bashing and kicking will be allowed.
5. All damage is created equal (no difference between stab/pierce/slash)
6. No headshots count, including projectiles

I am really looking forward to seeing a lot of you there, and am very excited about bringing a new level of communication and cross-promotion to all of our societies. Working together we can accomplish so much more than working separately.

Please feel free to post here with any questions or comments you have. More information will be made available in the following months. We should have our site selection finalized by the end of January.

If you are interested in being the contact person for organizing your group to attend, please drop me a PM. I'll be working with those parties to keep everybody up-to-date and iron out any questions or concerns that may arise.

Thanks,
Brennon

by **Physic** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:14 pm

This sounds fantastic. If time permits I will be there.

by **Old Horse** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:19 pm

Kudos on the effort and wish you the best of luck!
If time and money permits, we may be able to attend. :pirate:

by **MagnusofDregoth** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:53 pm

This is officially on my radar. I've never been to St Louis (although it plays a significant role in one of my happiest memories--when the Red Sox beat them in 2004) so it might be a nice trip. And my birthday is on the 26th, so it could be a fun excursion with some buddies.

by **Dane** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:28 pm

Sweet lord yes.

by **Arrakis** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:31 pm

Missile Blocking? Just shields or weapons and shields?

by **Big King Jimmy** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:37 am

Dane wrote:Sweet lord yes.

by **Slagar** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:17 am

I'm there. I'm so freakin' there.

by **Solusar** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:37 pm

No missile weapons to the head either Arrakis. This sounds quite fun.

by **p_quick** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:44 pm

yeah i'll be there, if everything works out for the best

by **Arkin** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:47 am

I cried a bit while I was reading this thread. I am going to be there this sounds like a very epic event and Idea.

by **bangor** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 3:32 pm

Bangor will be there, and will spread the word throughout Wisconsin that this will be an event not to be missed!

by **Dacian** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:26 pm

holy ****. This sounds amazing.

Hopefully, I'll be able to make it. Being that I live in Ohio, though, we'll see....

*crosses fingers*

by **bangor** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:43 am

Plan ahead, and get everyone you know to go in Ohio. I personally think Chicago is the best spot, but the Southerners would probably appreciate St. Louis a bit more. It's the same for me, because I have to go through Bears country regardless.

by **Forkbeard** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:39 am

I'd be there but I'm goin to Burning Man.
Sorry y'all.
FB

by **Big King Jimmy** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:10 pm

bangor wrote:Plan ahead, and get everyone you know to go in Ohio. I personally think Chicago is the best spot, but the Southerners would probably appreciate St. Louis a bit more. It's the same for me, because I have to go through Bears country regardless.

I was thinking the same thing, Kegg land would be a great site.... but it's a bit far north, and honestly it's kind of a hike to the airport (1 hour and 15 minutes or so.)

by **Sir Killian** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:42 pm

Brennon EH wrote:6. No headshots count, including projectiles

guess im not arching then....

and jimmy it takes 90mins to get anywhere in chicago... so it aint no hike.....

by **Outhro Youkker** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:23 pm

I dont plan too far ahead, so I will say that for now, I will be available unles something big comes up

by **Vak** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:17 am

Forkbeard wrote:I'd be there but I'm goin to Burning Man.
Sorry y'all.
FB

Ditto!

by **Dacian** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:42 am

Distance from an airport is no biggy for me. I'll probably end up driving anyways.

My birthday's the 9th, so hopefully I can use this as an excuse to go for my B-day.

by **Loptr** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:14 pm

Sindari and I are a likely go.

B- will you pay to ship my war pole? :angel:

by **Solusar** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:21 am

So has the decision to have it in MO made yet?

by **Zeldrine Cold** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:04 pm

This sounds so sweet and is such a good idea. I am going to make an effort to make it out to this.

by **bangor** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:33 am

Solusar wrote:So has the decision to have it in MO made yet?

Ever the madman, Sol.

by **Thrush Svartehjertet** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:10 pm

""guess im not arching then....""

In Darkon projectiles are not head legal, it's still great to arch... it wont ruin your good time, promise!

I would so love to go to an event like this... I actually consider the 2 crossover events the Aratari (dag) and Darkon did in '99 one of the biggest reasons for why I'm so into playing any game I can... This is a great idea! Good luck.

Thrush
berserk

by **bangor** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:24 pm

A. Awesome license plate.

B. The Aratari did a crossover event? What happened to them?

C. Barbarian?

E. *Edit* That video is so Frostbrew!!

by **Solusar** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:49 pm

They're still part of Dagorhir. Big as ever. But Dag is sort of close minded and won't do an crossover event anymore, which sucks. It's not fair to their fighters.

by **Thrush Svartehjertet** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:45 am

a. Thanks! I like my tag.

b. Yes, back when Rome was still in Darkon as well as Dagorhir (Aratari chapter), (before a big personal falling out) they helped organize 2 crossover events, Summer War 99 or something which was a weekend long campout that was just freaking awsome for a newbie like me. It's where I met a bunch of the people that made me want to play dag and bel and any other game I can hit people in. And a regular day event later that winter. Since that falling out, the Aratari have not been interested in crossover events, which they have every right to do. Darkon did a crossover event with Angaron a few years ago in western Maryland, it was very nice, and a good time was had by all. I would not say that all of Dag doesn't do crossover events, it's up to the individual chapters to do what they want to grow their events, it just won't have the entire game's name on it. No big deal, nothing against any game, one chapter doesn't want to do crossovers, others do.

c. I am a viking.

e. Is your unit Frostbrew a viking/barbarian type thing? If so, I take that as a compliment sir!

Thrush
berserk

by **Poo** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:04 pm

bangor wrote:Bangor will be there, and will spread the word throughout Wisconsin that this will be an event not to be missed!

You can count on me Bangor. I'll be there if its in chicago. You'd have to pass by me to get there anyways, if you go, i'm comin with ya.

by **bangor** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:42 am

It'll be glorious! Let's crush those Bears! Go Pack!

by **Poo** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:48 am

Yarrrrrr!!!! :fingers:

by **Atiliano** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:49 pm

I would love to go to this event.
Any more news about where??
I vote for St. Louis, for several reasons

Yes one being I am closer 2 StL. Plus I would venture to guess that people like me, Peter the quick, Frosty, and those who are from Arnor. Would like to be able to go to an event and not have to drive a min of 3 hours. I really like the place up north, but considering a lot of events have been moved up there it is expensive to drive in gas money, and it would as expressed previously be nice to have one in my backward so to say.

Also, it could help draw in more attention in the St. Louis area. I would like some of my non com family members to come for example, and see what a good sized event is like. They have seen me and my stuff, but have no other interaction with a fighter, and they scoff at the idea of driving 3 hours to do something they think is weird.

No not all Dag realms are against working with Bel fighters. We have had several Dag fighters come to our practices and events. From what I can think of atleast 4 different realms.

This sounds like a lot of fun and I hope it comes about successfully

Keep me posted please.

by **Tails** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:27 pm

God wrote:
bangor wrote:I personally think Chicago is the best spot. No doubt about it because Chicago is just awesome in all respects

Agreed and seconded

Couldn't say it better myself. Thanks, God.

by **Sir_Mel** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:14 pm

Peter the Quick and Frosty are definitely not in Arnor.

by **Atiliano** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:24 am

I know they are not from Arnor, especially Frosty he's from the second capital of Illinois originally. (Insert History Lesson)
What I said was

Atilano wrote:that people like me, Peter the quick, Frosty, and those who are from Arnor. Would like to be able to go to an event and not have to drive a min of 3 hours. .

Meaning people like me, Peter, and Frosty, who are from Southern Ill.
In addition to the members Arnor, who are from St. Louis.
Which is what I said originally in less words.

Also back on the place topic, I do love Chicago. Especially the food nothing beats a Chicago Hot Dog, or my personal fav Giordano's pizza yummm yummm

But since this year started it seems like all of the multi day events that were in Illinois were moved to Kegg land. Which is fine, and I have had fun up there. Since everything moved it made it a bit more difficult for the rest of us.
Let me put in a different way. Lets say that all of the events were moved to Carbondale, Il. Many of you would still go, but it would be more difficult Yes or No?
Why do all of the multi-day events in IL need to be moved to the North?

by **Derian** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:49 am

Because there's no where else to have them.

Oktoberfest moved because it's Numenor's event and Kegg has a large hand in running it, I imagine.

Spring Wars moved because Hidden Springs is permanently closed, Wolf Creek (maybe? Something like that) is also closed, and Forrest Glen doesn't open that early.

by **Mekoot Gorlock** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:32 am

your upset about 3 hours. Get over yourself, that's not even a drive to events. That's a short day trip. Drive to chaos then talk to me.

by **Soo Ma Tai** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:06 am

Mekoot Gorlock wrote:your upset about 3 hours. Get over yourself, that's not even a drive to events. That's a short day trip. Drive to chaos then talk to me.

QFT!

From Stygia every event we got to is over 4 hours away, except our own, which generally takes at least a 1/2 hour to drive to, usually more like an hour though.

by **Big King Jimmy** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:12 pm

I drive 3 hours for single day events, and until this last year all events were at least 4 hours away, forest glen was 5. Things have flip flopped, get over it.

by **Winfang** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:23 pm

I drove 7 hours 30 minutes to get to Wolfpack Opener.

by **Derian** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:30 pm

Some Utah guys (can't remember exactly who...) drove over 24 hours to WPO last year. *.

by **Solusar** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:36 pm

That's **** outrageous. That man deserves many high fives.

by **Angmarth** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:51 pm

Anyone from out West used to drive over 24 hours to get to Ragnarok. Back in those days we always held "Pre-Rag" in Numenor on the Saturday before it started. That gave the Western folks a chance to get a nights sleep before making the final trek to the event. Those guys were (are) truly "hard-core" when it came (comes) to travel and have my complete respect.

For what it's worth, before I got married I made it to a Chaos Wars. I drove for somewhere in the vicinity of 26 hours straight, with a whopping 30 minutes of sleep. I did it ONCE. Most of those guys who are "old-school" have done it a plethora of times. That in my opinion is totally badass.

by **Winfang** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:43 pm

Angmarth wrote:Anyone from out West used to drive over 24 hours to get to Ragnarok. Back in those days we always held "Pre-Rag" in Numenor on the Saturday before it started. That gave the Western folks a chance to get a nights sleep before making the final trek to the event. Those guys were (are) truly "hard-core" when it came (comes) to travel and have my complete respect.

For what it's worth, before I got married I made it to a Chaos Wars. I drove for somewhere in the vicinity of 26 hours straight, with a whopping 30 minutes of sleep. I did it ONCE. Most of those guys who are "old-school" have done it a plethora of times. That in my opinion is totally badass.

I've been out to Chaos War twice, 8 & 9. Flying is definitely the way to go on that one!

by **p_quick** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:17 pm

Derian wrote:Some Utah guys (can't remember exactly who...) drove over 24 hours to WPO last year. *.

That was elwrath and his lady

by **Elebrim** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:12 am

The merits of St. Louis shouldn't be overlooked. It is also a big city like Chicago and would have similar offerings. Also, it is further West (though only notably so), and further South, which could encourage participation from more far-flung realms.

Especially given Pizza's aversion to anything to do with Kegg, St. Louis would be extremely valuable as neutral turf.

by **Dane** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:43 am

St. Louis is sexy.

by **Angmarth** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:50 am

Something to remember is that those from Dagorhir that will come, will come no matter where it is. Those that have a problem with Kegg won't come anyway no matter where it is. As much as I would like it to be in my back yard, I think that it is best done at Keggland near Chicago. This is the epicenter of Belegarth in the east of the Mississippi and with the site run by swordfighters, I don't think you can go wrong.

I will be coming to this event myself, and I hope that all of you will as well.

by **Big King Jimmy** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:34 am

Plus, parks you can fight at aren't easy to come by. There's only 2 in IL now, as far as I know. No one has mentioned a park near St. Louis that would work. Plus, just a park where we CAN fight isn't enough, they have to let us.

by **Cedric** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:43 am

hell, rag 11 I drove to west virginia....45 hours, 8 people in a toyota 4 runner..... I have drove to rag/arm 11 or 12 times, at least 24 hour drive each way.

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