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Lurker wrote:Somehow, that post doesn't seem terribly out-of-place in this thread.
Loptr wrote:Lurker wrote:Somehow, that post doesn't seem terribly out-of-place in this thread.
Somehow Lurker posting here leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Loptr
p.s. why do we really give two **** about the Dag BS on their board that we need to snivvle here about it? Play by their weak rules or stay out.
Loptr wrote:Why do we really give two **** about the Dag BS on their board that we need to snivvle here about it? Play by their weak rules or stay out.
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Loptr wrote:Loptr
p.s. why do we really give two **** about the Dag BS on their board that we need to snivvle here about it? Play by their weak rules or stay out.
bangor wrote:Loptr wrote:Loptr
p.s. why do we really give two **** about the Dag BS on their board that we need to snivvle here about it? Play by their weak rules or stay out.
Because what they are doing hurts an already fringe activity. Because there are people worth participating with on the other side, even in Rome. Because ultimately, as long as the poison continues in the minds of their adherents, whining about it here will do little good.
Take it to them, take it to theirs fields, and build fun, lasting group relationships. That's the best way to say **** YOOOUUUUU...
I don't believe what is done on one board hurts the activity as a whole on the national scale (there will be many fighters at all national foam fighting events this year, and next year, and the next...etc...). I don't think the hobby needs help, nor cares much about hurt. It's not going to go away, and does it NEED to grow to be good? I actually have seen things get less fun as the games grow...
SirMADOG wrote:Dammit Godwin wins again.
Giggles wrote:Kyrax, I would love to see whatever evidence there is to support the effectiveness of DBGA's Orwellian recruitment policies.
Kyrax wrote:Giggles wrote:Kyrax, I would love to see whatever evidence there is to support the effectiveness of DBGA's Orwellian recruitment policies.
Growth of Dagorhir? Come to Ragnarok and you'd see it.
Arrakis wrote:Correlation does NOT imply causation.
Aslaug wrote:Amtgard has the benefit of an established recognition system (knighting) for both fighters and non-coms. It seems like it sets up a long-term goal for people, giving them a reason to stay around longer than in the other games.
Winfang wrote:My opinion is that Dagorhir's growth is the result of a defined marketing plan that worked off of the success of Lord of the Rings movie events and other smaller yet similar events to establish itself as the dominant LARP during the time when the internet became a common household utility. Their board policy has been used by Dagorhir to maintain their control as the dominant LARP. I don't think it was engineered to be this successful, it just happened to fall into it.
warwell wrote:Maybe it's just me, but I am skeptical that a formal knighting system keeps most people around. My experiences in the SCA and Adrian Empire have only inspired loathing of formal rank systems. I've seen too many arrogant knights (not all are like that of course, but enough to make it unpalatable).
Of course, I don't know much about Amtgard. How common is knighting? If it is rare, I would argue that it doesn't keep people around. Instead, perhaps Amtgard's success is due to it having magic and classes.
YIS,
Rufus
Winfang wrote:I know a bunch of peers (knights, laurels, and pelicans) within SCA and they're really cool helpful people.
maybe a little structure wouldn't hurt
Thrush Svartehjertet wrote:I still don't really understand the perceived need of games to "grow". I understand local groups wanting to have more than 5 dudes to hit, but there are a lot of people on the net talking about how they HAVE to expand their game (doesn't matter which one). Why? It seems to me to all be bred from a need for acceptance by the main stream... and I will never get that. I like foam fighting the way it is, and I strongly feel it could use less press at this point. I'm tired of people at bars being like, oh that thing on discovery channel or that movie with the nerdy kid. I'm like kinda, but you ever play tackle football? I dunno, I just wish it was like it was 7 or more years ago, off the radar for the most part...
Kyrax wrote:
And Winfang, if it's growth that you're looking for, maybe Amtgard's expansion would be a better model to study. From what I can tell it is much bigger than Dag or Bel, and maybe both combined.
Outhro Youkker wrote:I just like the idea of ignoring what is said on both sides and just go fight
I crave combat
I moved to NC two months ago and there is nobody close by, plus I am limited on my road trips to anywhere.
Wanted to go to the Dag event up north in Virginia last weekend, but couldn't make it because I had a schedule set up for the original date for the weekend before. They changed the date, and I was not able to go.
This up coming weekend I am going to a RenFair in Raleigh, where SCA will be showing up and I want to talk to them so that I can find some fighting.
I am showing up in full armor, and I want to talk so that I can know where and when I can go somewhere so that I can fight.
Bele and Dag I would take as priorities for fighting, but there is nobody around here. My next in line is SCA. Not going for LARP, because it would be that I am dreadfully desperate.
Once had a problem with Dagorhir. The jerk that caused all the issues terminated his chapter after everyone quit and got the permission to have their own chapter. He basically decreed that I couldn't fight Dag with any of the units on the island. Went to Bele, and * that the Dag boards ignored when I asked for help on how one person being power hungry and controlling everything in a chapter.
Karma is a *. He recently got banned from the Dag boards because he was going around the word filters and calling me out on being the founder of a belegarth realm, and because he kept on mentioning the LARP he founded.
I had my issues with Dag for a few months, then I just realized that I pitied the jerkoff that banned me and didnt have any problems with Dagorhir.
I fight, I like to fight, and I can post here about different fighting groups without the problem of getting banned.
Bele boards are more open to talk about anything
Dag boards realy wants to focus on Dag.
and I dont care if anybody judges me for being in other groups
Akeron wrote:Alex you are so full of your own waste that you are unable to follow your own thread of lies from PR[...]
Alunsun wrote:Oh wow. I didn't see this. Akeron, you got kicked out of Dag... Good luck with whatever it is you're trying to do with your own rules set. Mind your weak * business before I eat your family ^_^
Graavish wrote:it's not the weight of the weapon that makes for a solid hit, it's how much i don't like you when i'm swinging.
Dane wrote:So a guy goes alone to a party to tell another guy he's an *. The guy being told he's an * is surrounded by like 100 of his friends, and the guy that came alone is...alone.
Danke for the lolz. Now run along.
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