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Tiercel wrote:Sometimes I stay on my knees for so long, I forget, and have to leave them both down.
Varadin wrote:Problem is right now in dagorhir there is no "suffecient force" rule. Everyone still goes by it but by the rules if the herald sees you get hit he can call you on it. I by no mean agree with this but technically its the rules.
Derian wrote:Something I hear they do out West that I really like for judging tournaments --
Heralds watch the fight like normal. When it's finished, if there was cheating, they call the fight no good, do over. That way the fight doesn't have to stop and people don't get tempers during the actual fight.
Soo Ma Tai wrote:This is total bull **** IMO. At CW this year a fight was recalled because of video footage of the fight. When the **** did we start using an instant replay method. People on the sidelines should never call shots, ever, ever. Total bad form.
Soo Ma Tai wrote:
1. Adjudication
1.1. Marshal - Person responsible for rules enforcement and weapons inspection.
1.1.1. A Marshal has the authority to remove anyone from the field of battle.
1.1.2. A Marshal determines Equipment classifications according to the guidelines outlined in Appendix A.
1.1.3. A Marshal is responsible for safe conduct of battles, and therefore has the power to stop battles whenever a safety concern occurs.
1.2. All Equipment must be inspected and properly marked if appropriate, according to the guidelines outlined in Appendix A, before it is used in combat.
1.3. The target of an attack makes combat hit determinations.
1.4. Creative interpretation of the rules to gain any advantage is discouraged. These rules are intentionally sparse to allow for ease of use. The Marshal, according to these rules, and medieval foam combat precedent, settles all disputes.
pay special attention to 1.1.3 and 1.3. As a herald your job is to enforce the rules and conduct safe battles. Not make hit determinations. I can see calling someone dead in cases where the rules are obviously being broken, but if it is even questionable, the fighter may have blocked it, could have been light, etc., it should be on the honor of the combatants. Stopping an entire battle to talk about one hit is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of. Why ruin everyones good time because one guy isn't taking hits. If it's obvious and blatant, remove that person from the field for a time, hour, day, whatever. A herald is there to settle disputes, not to make unwarranted calls. Only in the case of a dispute, between the combatants, should a herald be making a hit determination. Not because some sideliner says hey that's BS, he got hit.
Rule 1.3 is the rules these heralds should be enforcing, and tell the peanut gallery to keep their collective traps shut. I realise this was a Dag event the pic is referring to, and IDK, they may have changed the wording so that Herald do make hit determinations. I don't pay the least ammount of attention to Dag rules, but in Belegarth, no herald should be calling hits unless they are settling a dispute between combatants.
Big Jimmy wrote:For the record, that is the **** looking equipment I've ever seen. And did anyone check flex on that flail?
Bortas wrote:Physic, what do you think about the clean/not clean system discussed above?
-bort
Physic wrote:Something I notice that is very common and I can't stand is that people would rather walk off the field and talk bad about someone rather than have a respectful conversation over whatever happened on the field. You should always be able to resolve issues through communication whether it is on the battle field or in a tournament.
Graavish wrote:it's not the weight of the weapon that makes for a solid hit, it's how much i don't like you when i'm swinging.
Graavish wrote:it's not the weight of the weapon that makes for a solid hit, it's how much i don't like you when i'm swinging.
Zwei ap Owen wrote:Juicer sho' nuff loves tuh shuffle.
Big Jimmy wrote:Those that don't like the active heralding approach, is there a limit? Do you only feel this way about tournies or in general? I'm reminded of the NFL, where calls are made and they aren't always right, but refs don't hesitate to make them. What's the point to having marshals on the field if they don't make calls? Hasn't a mix of rampent cheating and quite heralds been a lot of people's problems at Rag for years?
I know that's a lot of questions, but I'm just trying to understand the other side. It's sounds a lot harsher than my fingers are typing it.
Forkbeard wrote:Here's what I saw, from about 25 feet away.
Fight starts, fight ends. Peter walks off, out of the fighting circle, looking neutral-pissed(couldn't tell) and leaves the field.
Peters buddy calls to him "Peter, come back, the fight was UNCLEAN." exact words. Peter comes back on the field, some discusion happens that I can hear, and they fight again. Peter wins that fight.
Now,I dodn't know about the details of what was said or decided by the hearalds.
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