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Zwei ap Owen wrote:Juicer sho' nuff loves tuh shuffle.
Zwei ap Owen wrote:Juicer sho' nuff loves tuh shuffle.
Derian wrote:I think a lot of what people are harping on is that with the stance they're advocating (I'm not saying it's on the only one), you won't need to move anything to block. If someone throws a high cross to a shoulder wrap, if you've moved your shield to block that cross, it's going to be more difficult to bring the shield back to block the wrap and you need to get it out of the way before you can counter.
Now, if you weapon block that cross and roll your hips back a little bit to block the wrap, you should be able to chop their arm with more ease.
An easy and basic example, but I'm trying to keep it in the realm of 'this is what I believe' and not 'only terribads don't fight like this', cause lord knows, I'm still a terribad and I try to fight like this.
Juicer wrote:I'm not saying it doesn't have it's uses, lefties and the high cross for example.
Zwei ap Owen wrote:Juicer sho' nuff loves tuh shuffle.
Derian wrote:Ok, so bad example. The same could be applied to someone who's trying to come in for a weapon side hip wrap. By blocking with your weapon that's already there, you don't waste any time or energy and don't limit or expose yourself as much as if you were to move the shield over.
Zwei ap Owen wrote:Juicer sho' nuff loves tuh shuffle.
Zwei ap Owen wrote:Juicer sho' nuff loves tuh shuffle.
Juicer wrote:Also you may as well just drop that shield because clearly it is just in the way of more wicked awesome weapon blocks.
Graavish wrote:it's not the weight of the weapon that makes for a solid hit, it's how much i don't like you when i'm swinging.
Dane wrote:Being in the habit of pulling your shield over to guard your weapon side will, as stated previously in this thread, make you feint and combo bait. Pocket Stab -> Drop Shot, Short Cross -> Drop Shot, Short Cross -> High Wrap, Short Cross -> Hip Wrap, Short Cross -> Arm Wrap, Short Cross/Pocket Stab -> Shield Edge -> Pick a Move. These are just off the top of my head. If I can get you to pull your shield over to your sword side, then you're in your own way and helping my cause.
I'm not saying one should never guard his or her weapon side by sliding the shield over, but it certainly shouldn't be a first resort or a fundamental.
Zwei ap Owen wrote:Juicer sho' nuff loves tuh shuffle.
Kenneth wrote:I agree with Dane. However, I have discovered very few people who have the defensive abilities to properly grind down their opponent. Frequently, a rapid-fire offense will overcome the defense, and the purpose is defeated.
However, that is more because there has been a fundamental lack in training defensive formation that has given the appearance of offense being so much better.
From my perspective, I view it as a giant set of decisions. If I do this, they have two options, A and B. If they pick A, they have options C and D. If they pick B, they have options E and F. As long as I can maintain an extremely tight defense, my opponent's offense will frequently fall apart.
In the case of blocking with their shield instead of their sword, I can very rapidly cut down an opponent's options. That is why I advocate sword-blocking.
In the first exchange, there are only two real ways somebody who blocks with their shield can go. For simplification purposes, most people who block with their shield go up or down with their sword guard, else they wouldn't be blocking with their shield. If they go up, there are basically only two ways they will go, and if they go down, there are only two ways they will go.
I have noticed the majority of people, especially those who fight in realms with larger shields attack from the top. Both attacks are defeated with relatively minimal to non-existent shifts, however both attacks are fairly difficult to recover from throwing. One of the options has a nearly catastrophic result, and the other option has a relatively poor future outcome.
Those who fight in realms that predominately have smaller shields tend to go down. That results in one of two attacks, again, one of which can be forced into an extremely poor outcome (darkside), and one of which can be dealt with relatively easily. In this situation, it is a relatively simple matter to force your opponent into a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation, where it doesn't matter which option they pick.
In other words, as long as you can continually cut down on an opponent's future options, the battle will tend to go the way you want it to go. Most fights rarely last beyond the first few swings except by luck. You can frequently take advantage of a situation by dragging a fight out far longer than they are comfortable with. When I fight, I aim to keep as many of my options available, while reducing as many of my opponent's options.
Once I have reduced my opponent's options, I can act in a manner that will tend to result in very poor results for my opponent.
As a bit of background, one of the fundamental principles in my personal style is focused around defeating people who block with their shield in that manner. It is a bit like paper-scissors-rock. Everybody who blocks in that manner is throwing scissors, and I'm throwing rock. That doesn't mean rock is the be-all, end-all, but it does mean that I'm frequently going to come out on top of everybody who throws scissors.
The people who are the most susceptible to my style are those that attack repeatedly, especially those that attack in a manner similar to the footage I have seen. That doesn't mean my style is better, but it does mean I'm going to keep throwing rock when they throw scissors.
Zwei ap Owen wrote:Juicer sho' nuff loves tuh shuffle.
Kenneth wrote:* * I have noticed some videos advocating a decisive punch to block. In my experience, that has frequently lead to the blocking arm being chopped off.
Kenneth wrote:For clarification purposes, by "decisive punch to block", I meant using a full punch to block, which would be too far out. It was a poor choice in words, but we are on the same page in terms of concept. An example of using an inappropriate punch to block is found in the Rag advanced S&B video at approximately the 6:40 - 6:50 mark, which was the video I was specifically referencing.
Sir Par wrote:Its all about Herpes? Then I've this **** down SOLID for years!
Sir Killian wrote:i only weapon block cause it allows me to better jam my heater down my opponents throat
Sir Killian wrote:i only weapon block cause it allows me to better jam my heater down my opponents throat
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