Fighting Basics

[Lysander]

I'm going to start Belegarth within in the next 2 months about and was wondering what the basics to fighting with the sword and shield are. I've been foam fighting for almost two years now and am one of the best fighters among my friends. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!

[Gamera]

What's your foam fighting background? One of the other established boffing groups or was it home brew? What style did you use before ei: dual wield, two hander, small one hander, etc?

Without going into too much to go on, keep your shield close (unless it's a punch) if you are not doing anything with it, and your sword up in front of you to help blow block on your sword side.

Don't forget to use your shield offensively, hampering your opponent's offensive options and his/her defense instead of just using it to passively block. A shield to the armpit or binding his/her block instrument will help you end up on top.

And in a related note, learn to work with your shield when you attack as opposed it hampering you. It's mostly something you grow accustomed to. Rounds are great in this regard because there are no pesky corners to get caught up on unlike rectangular shields.

Edit: Wrong word...Teaches me not to post while studying.

[Caleidah]

You'll be fighting in Dunharrow, correct? There are a lot of good fighters there that will get you well set on learning the basics. Once you have a few practices under your belt, a lot of the links at the top of the page will begin to make more sense to you.

[Lysander]

Thanks for the tips, I know what i've been doing right now ... and as far as what i use, i've used a variaty of weapons. I have dual weilded quite effectively with a couple of 4 and a half foot swords, and i can somewhat use a single sword to some effect. But since the begining i've been working on the Sword and shield combo. Thanks again for any info!

Oh and for what group, We're a small little group that was started with Belegarth in mind, i belive the group is 5 or six years old so there are some experianced fighters there. I originally learned from them so yeah...

[Dane]

I don't know what "so yeah" means.

If your fighting has been limited to you and your friends, then there's a 99.999% chance that your fighting is nowhere near as good as you think it is. When you get to Dunharrow, talk to Moxk and Sir Morbian; they'll have tons of advice for you.

[Peanut of Loderia]

Quick question: Were youa part of the Medieval Society of LaGrange?

[Lysander]

I don't know what "so yeah" means.

If your fighting has been limited to you and your friends, then there's a 99.999% chance that your fighting is nowhere near as good as you think it is. When you get to Dunharrow, talk to Moxk and Sir Morbian; they'll have tons of advice for you.

I completly belive you, mainly because of the fact that I've seen some of the videos that are from belegarth... I'm definitly nowhere near what i've seen.

And Yes I was and still am a part of the Medievial Warfare Society Of LaGrange. Where do you know them from.

[Peanut of Loderia]

I came by to fight with them a little bit a few year(s) ago. I was fighting Bel at that time for maybe a year and a half. Short Mexican in green.

[Lysander]

I have a slight recollection. Were you at battle the thirtieth??

[Slagar]

Dude, I kept meaning to hit up your guys' events. They looked like a blast. Your FB page seemed to imply that you'd called it quits a while back. You still holding those?

[Lysander]

It's still going on, the guys who first created it went off to collage so a few of us newer people kept it going.

[Slagar]

Sweet. I watched a couple of the videos you guys had posted. Seemed like a fun crowd. I'd say that getting out to a Bel realm will be a good first step, if you're looking to work on your game. As the guys here have already said, trying to put anything posted on a web board into practice needs context. You won't get much out of our replies until you've gone to a few practices.

That said, we're glad to have you! Our game's a little more intense, but I think you'll enjoy it. Seems like a natural progression, to me.

[Peanut of Loderia]

Maybe? It was something like that, right before both the guys left.

[Lysander]

Maybe? It was something like that, right before both the guys left.

I do remember you, I was one of the new guys that day that couldn't hit anybody!

[Todo]

Without going into too much to go on, keep your shield close (unless it's a punch) if you are not doing anything with it, and your sword up in front of you to help blow block on your sword side.

I guess that my best advice to you would be not to listen to this gem.

[Slagar]

It's not technically wrong. I mean, I do both of those things. It's just also as helpful as a sack of drowned weasels. Meh. Unhelpful advice is still preferable to eloquently advocating doing the wrong things.

[Todo]

I think my biggest problem with it was the advocation of not holding a punch shield close. I really hope you don't do that.

[Slagar]

Oh. Yeah, actually, suspending a punch about 10-14inches away from your body, versus using a punch that's basically glued to my shoulder, offers increased protection. Holding it at arm's length is stupid, for sure, but the angles of protection a slight suspension like that gives you are pretty sweet. To test this, have someone lay a sword on the top of your shoulder with the shield flush against your body, and then push the shield straight towards them. You'll notice that at some point the shield pushes their sword off of you, without ever moving up or down. The ability to achieve this angle of protection with a comparatively smaller shield is one of the only advantages I know of to punch shields, really.

[Dane]

What Slagar said. Clutching your punch tight is doing it wrong.

[Todo]

Wasn't advocating dapping it to your shoulder; I'd call 10 inches being pretty close.

[Dane]

The ability to achieve this angle of protection with a comparatively smaller shield is one of the only advantages I know of to punch shields, really.

*More maneuverable
*Easier to defend a teammate with it
*Easier to offer different types of bait to your opponent
*Easy to equip/discard
*Shield checking made easy

[Samuraijesus420]

Oh. Yeah, actually, suspending a punch about 10-14inches away from your body, versus using a punch that's basically glued to my shoulder, offers increased protection. Holding it at arm's length is stupid, for sure, but the angles of protection a slight suspension like that gives you are pretty sweet. To test this, have someone lay a sword on the top of your shoulder with the shield flush against your body, and then push the shield straight towards them. You'll notice that at some point the shield pushes their sword off of you, without ever moving up or down. The ability to achieve this angle of protection with a comparatively smaller shield is one of the only advantages I know of to punch shields, really.

Holding teh shield at arm length create a barrier between you an opponent. Also it sets up a nice tease on that arm, they swing for it and BAM. You pull arm back step deflect and riposte. With back foot step you can generate a lot of power from hips to really smash opponent. Only time I hold it against body is when I fighting sword foot forward to lead with shoulder high cross bait. This is so i can stop deep power wraps from my *, and gives me escape from darkside by back step.

[Forkbeard]

Seriously??
Samuraijesus420?
I say you can not hand out any advice until you pick a proper name.
****.
FB

[Slagar]

It's ok, Fork. It's all that tiger blood, gotta have a rockstar name to contain it.

MenpoBuddha, your post looks like it was written in crayon by a 5 year old on caffeine. Run that baby through a spell-checker and somebody who passed senior english, and re-post. It looks like you might have something there worth reading, but I can't tell. I
don't wanna shoot down your idea, if it may have merit, just because you can't write/spell/communicate, but you're making it difficult.

[Slagar]

Shut up, Dane. With your facts. Who asked you?

[Samuraijesus420]

Seriously??
Samuraijesus420?
I say you can not hand out any advice until you pick a proper name.
****.
FB

Don't judge a book by cover forkbaerd. So what what? I am a christian samurai that's smokes dro. I love jesus and ghanja so I put it in name. I could probably smoke ya, you sound old and tired. Don't be mad you cant competition no more.

Anyhow, small punches make good darkksiders and you can body feint like a mother ****. Holding it close just makes it a worse medium shield, hold it away from your bod and let person make mistakes throwing shots you know are coming.

[No'Vak]

Seriously??
Samuraijesus420?
I say you can not hand out any advice until you pick a proper name.
****.
FB

I am a christian samurai that's smokes dro.

Epic.

[Slagar]

Yeah. You're a wandering shaman, imparting wisdom. 'ppreciate that.

[Tor]

Seriously??
Samuraijesus420?
I say you can not hand out any advice until you pick a proper name.
****.
FB

Don't judge a book by cover forkbaerd. So what what? I am a christian samurai that's smokes dro. I love jesus and ghanja so I put it in name. I could probably smoke ya, you sound old and tired. Don't be mad you cant competition no more.

Anyhow, small punches make good darkksiders and you can body feint like a mother ****. Holding it close just makes it a worse medium shield, hold it away from your bod and let person make mistakes throwing shots you know are coming.

How is babby formed?

[Samuraijesus420]

Seriously??
Samuraijesus420?
I say you can not hand out any advice until you pick a proper name.
****.
FB

Don't judge a book by cover forkbaerd. So what what? I am a christian samurai that's smokes dro. I love jesus and ghanja so I put it in name. I could probably smoke ya, you sound old and tired. Don't be mad you cant competition no more.

Anyhow, small punches make good darkksiders and you can body feint like a mother ****. Holding it close just makes it a worse medium shield, hold it away from your bod and let person make mistakes throwing shots you know are coming.

How is babby formed?

Dunno? Misguided children taught birth control over abstinence in our public schools? This has nothing to do with fighting theory and should be moved to a different board. IF you have anything useful to say I will gladly hear it.

[Forkbeard]

You cannot beat me.
It's because im old that you cannot.
your name is gay.
wearing your beliefs on your sleave is gay.
you are only repeating fight talk you have overheard good fighters using.
No one here cares about your religion.
Samurais who were christain were dirty traitors.
You should come to Chaos War and teach me a lesson, Jesushomo#1
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[Mannajax]

Wearing your beliefs on your sleeve isn't gay. That's kinda the point of having them: living by them. But claiming Christ as your Lord then saying you love to desecrate God's holy temple that is your body is, at minimum, a contradiction.

But what does any of that bickering have to do with fighting basics?

[Derian]

But what does any of that bickering have to do with fighting basics?

Inorite? Take this **** elsewhere.