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Graavish wrote:it's not the weight of the weapon that makes for a solid hit, it's how much i don't like you when i'm swinging.
MagnusofDregoth wrote:So, I'm getting back into fighting after a hiatus of a year and a half or so (during which I have mostly been playing a ton of rugby), and while I'm still a pretty good fighter, rustiness notwithstanding, I'm running into a problem I personally haven't had to deal with before but I imagine many of you have.
The new group I'm fighting with here in Florida has one other vet, Deakon, who's originally from Eryndor and fights the way you would expect someone from Eryndor would fight, and quite well at that. The other 20 or so fighters who come to practice, however, are new fighters with at most 1 year of experience, and many of them typify the "newbie-fu" style of fighting, namely, being very wild with their attacks, throwing shield bashes at bizarre times, backhacking more than they fight straight-up, and generally being confusing to fight against after several years fighting against mostly other veterans with more refined and consistent technique. The result is that I am getting killed a lot more than I should, by basically random techniques from inexperienced fighters, part of which I know comes from diminished battlefield awareness, especially against backhackers (the offsides rule in rugby means you don't have to worry about people behind you), but part of which I am convinced is a product of the generally unpredictable and haphazard way in which a lot of these new fighters play.
So my question is twofold: 1, what approach, in terms of mindset, techniques, what have you, should I use to beat them in a manner consistent with my actual skill level as I understand it, without slipping into bad habits (a lot of the stuff in my old "advanced" sword and shield vid, for example), and 2, how can I best help these new fighters, particularly those who have good natural talent but are relying almost exclusively on it, to learn good technique?
Elebrim wrote:...I question why lately it seems like we must do everything that Amtgard does or else we are no longer the best fighters. I don't think it's right or necessary.
Bishop wrote:Overall I believe the article was positive for our image, loosely defining us as a sadomasochist anti-larp. I'm ok with that. http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/LARP-harder
Caleidah wrote:But, his sensei passed that style down to him! Literal hours of tradition!
since the Dag boards fighting section is full of turds and no one on the Armour Archive gives a **** about foam weapons.
Graavish wrote:it's not the weight of the weapon that makes for a solid hit, it's how much i don't like you when i'm swinging.
Arrakis wrote:1. PS: Whomever just told you that shield kicks must be with the flat of your foot is wrong and should be told he is wrong early and often. Especially if that's the same guy talking about swinging more with the wrist. Where's this guy even from?
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2. He reminds me of a certain class of Dagorhir fighter who is very fast and very good at one particular very limited style of fighting. Speaking of which, start failing that ugly douche-stick abortion he's trying to hit you with. Insufficient haft padding is an excellent excuse to fail any given Dagorhir weapon, as the rule on the books for haft padding is very strict.
3. Let's see... more blocking the sword side with your shield, more crossing, more no-faking... You're fighting down to his level, playing long-range leg-shot-to-high-cross tag. He's always gonna beat you if you play his game. Close and wrap, cut off the outside lanes and shut him down, get him to move his shield around, edge him. Get up to a major Bel or Amt event and hit some good fighters to remember what you're supposed to do.
4. Oh: Stop accepting those darksides he's throwing. It's apparent from video that he's literally just flicking his arm at you. If it's hitting hard enough, it's because your calibration has fallen and/or that **** hits too hard to pass.
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Hope that wall of text helps!
For Deakon, he is a very good fighter, and god bless him, he gives me right for a lot of '****' things I said on belegarth and arakis and the gang told me :"ludicrously tap larp", "we don't do wrist attacks", "we use sooooooo much heavy weapon" .... So if i can ask, say thank you to deakon for me ^^
Solusar wrote:SWORD AND SHIELD vs ARKIS
In both videos it looks like that low hung strapped shield is new for you and you're not 100% comfortable with it yet. I don't have advice, that's just an observation.
Dane wrote: More left-handed single blue is needed.
Bishop wrote:Overall I believe the article was positive for our image, loosely defining us as a sadomasochist anti-larp. I'm ok with that. http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/LARP-harder
Caleidah wrote:But, his sensei passed that style down to him! Literal hours of tradition!
Graavish wrote:it's not the weight of the weapon that makes for a solid hit, it's how much i don't like you when i'm swinging.
Graavish wrote:it's not the weight of the weapon that makes for a solid hit, it's how much i don't like you when i'm swinging.
Graavish wrote:it's not the weight of the weapon that makes for a solid hit, it's how much i don't like you when i'm swinging.
Graavish wrote:it's not the weight of the weapon that makes for a solid hit, it's how much i don't like you when i'm swinging.
Akbar the Foul wrote:If only everyone had my sweet disposition, then we could all get along.
Remy the Wroth wrote:Dane wrote: More left-handed single blue is needed.
Bishop wrote:Overall I believe the article was positive for our image, loosely defining us as a sadomasochist anti-larp. I'm ok with that. http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/LARP-harder
Caleidah wrote:But, his sensei passed that style down to him! Literal hours of tradition!
Here's me fighting Deakon - if anything I look worse.
Graavish wrote:it's not the weight of the weapon that makes for a solid hit, it's how much i don't like you when i'm swinging.
MagnusofDregoth wrote:And in response to Todo's comment,
I can definitely hit legs easily when doing sword and shield. I don't like to, because I want to be focusing on developing my attacks against the arms and body (which are more effective killing moves) but maybe I should get back into it just because it gives me a huge footwork and range advantage. Thoughts?
Akbar the Foul wrote:If only everyone had my sweet disposition, then we could all get along.
Remy the Wroth wrote:Remy the Wroth wrote:Dane wrote: More left-handed single blue is needed.
Bishop wrote:Overall I believe the article was positive for our image, loosely defining us as a sadomasochist anti-larp. I'm ok with that. http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/LARP-harder
Caleidah wrote:But, his sensei passed that style down to him! Literal hours of tradition!
Bo wrote:in the end remember you are new again, why train bad habits trying to win fights, when you should lose them all and learn to do what will help you the most long term.
Graavish wrote:it's not the weight of the weapon that makes for a solid hit, it's how much i don't like you when i'm swinging.
Derian wrote:Well, ****. Par is right.
Graavish wrote:it's not the weight of the weapon that makes for a solid hit, it's how much i don't like you when i'm swinging.
Dane wrote:Glad to see you doing some lefty single.
Any average-to-good fighter with a foundation in single blue is going to tear you apart. You need to start working the inside - slots, short cross to the chest - along with the footwork that's going to put you into position to aggress and defend yourself.
Bishop wrote:Overall I believe the article was positive for our image, loosely defining us as a sadomasochist anti-larp. I'm ok with that. http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/LARP-harder
Caleidah wrote:But, his sensei passed that style down to him! Literal hours of tradition!
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