PIE TINS!!!!!!!

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Should you be able to use a pie tin for a buckler base?

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PIE TINS!!!!!!!

Postby Anagni » Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:13 pm

i was recently eating a muffin and threw the pie tin away when i noticed, hey, that would make a sweet little buckler. Would this pass the council? could it be possible to make a small buckler out of a pie tin??? please give me your opinions!
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Postby Magpie Saegar » Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:37 pm

you mean the really flimsy things that get holes in them easily and can be crushed with one hand?

..all the strength/stability would come from the foam. SO... it would basically be a coreless shield that happened to have a pie-tin on one side.
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Postby Anagni » Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:43 pm

yes but with two solid layers of foam it would probably hold up rather nicely. plus some tins are a little more thicker than most.
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Postby Magpie Saegar » Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:53 pm

yeah. you could use it for the shape, but I don't see the point of calling it a core, or keeping it on after making the shield.

i don't see anything wrong with it, either, though.

perhaps other people have other thoughts.
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Postby Anagni » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:00 pm

i woulda thought you woulda liked it since your sig says shiny object collector lol :D
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Postby Big King Jimmy » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:32 pm

no metal cores.
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Postby Chicken » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:27 pm

Actually the specific rule is:
1.3.9. A Weapon may not have a metal core.
It is technically legal to have a metal cored shield, though who knows how many weapons checkers would choose to care. A disposable pie tin, though, would be pointlessly flimsy. Also, most of the strength of a pie tin comes from it's shape, so unless you want to keep the whole pie tin shape, depth and all, it'll get even flimsier.
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Postby Od1n » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:41 pm

You should experiment and see how strong maybe 2 or 3 pie tins are glued together. That could help it from breaking easily.

Not that I'm condoning this. Just curious to see what it will look like when you are done.
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Postby Ander_Elessedil » Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:53 pm

A more productive and cost effective use of 3 pie tins would be to make 3 pies and give them to me.
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Postby maximilian » Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:47 am

Coreless/flimsy shields? I am trying to find (unsuccessfully) any rules on limitations to shield flexibility (see rules questions thread). My vague understanding is that checkers will fail your shield for excess flex, even though there seems to be no rule covering it. Any knowledge of this rule may apply to the above pie tin question as well.
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Postby Faolan » Sat Apr 22, 2006 6:17 am

I think there is no rule specifically in the book of war because that rule is probably the hardest to explain/standardize. What you should do is ask an expierenced weapon checker what they think.
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Postby Chicken » Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:02 am

Ander_Elessedil wrote:A more productive and cost effective use of 3 pie tins would be to make 3 pies and give them to me.


mmmmmm! pie.

You're right, that's a much better idea. A further improvement would be to give the pies to me instead.
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Postby Ander_Elessedil » Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:45 am

Chicken wrote:
Ander_Elessedil wrote:A more productive and cost effective use of 3 pie tins would be to make 3 pies and give them to me.


mmmmmm! pie.

You're right, that's a much better idea. A further improvement would be to give the pies to me instead.


So in conclusion:

1) Pie Plate sheilds are a pretty bad idea for multiple reasons (look tacky, fail flex/taco rule hard core, not proper usage of a pie plate)

2) You're better off making pie and giving it to me an Chicken at Chaos this year.
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Postby Tulio » Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:57 am

you forgot
3)Chicken looses for using a weeble and bob reference.
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Postby Ander_Elessedil » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:37 pm

No, absolutely false.

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Postby Sir_Mel » Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:35 pm

how big is this muffin you're talking about??? A shield has to be like 1 ft minimum across (I think), so that would have to be one **** huge muffin. TELL ME WHERE TO GET A MUFFIN THAT BIG!!!! >:( >:( >:(

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Postby Tulio » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:23 am

Um.....PIE TINS....not muffins. He thought about pie tins while eating muffins.
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Postby Sir_Mel » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:15 pm

aha
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Postby mbannon » Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:42 pm

if you think a pie tin would work think about this would you trust it to block az glaive, it would fold in half even if there were three layers so bad idea
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Postby savetuba » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:22 pm

I took a look at 12" pie tin today and try as I might I couldn't make even one tin flex. For only $1.99 it seems to be a fairly cheap core.

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Like the above only 12" not 7"
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Postby Ander_Elessedil » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:34 pm

savetuba wrote:I took a look at 12" pie tin today and try as I might I couldn't make even one tin flex. For only $1.99 it seems to be a fairly cheap core.

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Like the above only 12" not 7"


That think looks like galvinized steel.
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Postby Od1n » Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:28 am

Have any of you tested any of the crap you are spewing?

Unless any of you have made pie tin shields, or have tested the strength of a pie tin shield, maybe you should not make assumptions about pie tin shields?

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Postby Magpie Saegar » Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:19 am

Bishop (and others): the one in the picture does look fine, but since he was talking about throwing it away, I think most of us were not imagining one like that.

I believe most of us were imagining something more like this, which would not work:

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Postby savetuba » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:44 am

Ander_Elessedil wrote:
savetuba wrote:I took a look at 12" pie tin today and try as I might I couldn't make even one tin flex. For only $1.99 it seems to be a fairly cheap core.

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Like the above only 12" not 7"


That think looks like galvinized steel.


But yet it is tin. Besides I was only using that image as an example image seeing how I couldn't find the exact tin I tested. However the rules say:

2.4. The minimum dimension on the face of a shield is 12 inches.

So would that be just the flat or is it the flat and angled together?
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Postby Big King Jimmy » Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:01 pm

Draw a 12" circle on the ground. Place your shield over it. If you can not see any of the circle, your shield passes.
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