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Postby Sir Azrael » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:05 pm

So one friday night while my girlfriend was at work I was sitting on my couch being bored and an idea came across my mind...NEW SWORD! and a new design for myself. Never made one like it but I was very please the way it turned out. So here it is, my pretty sword. Comments are welcomed :)
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Re: New sword

Postby Azgarehta » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:53 pm

Design looks good. You're going to love blocking with that longer handle because swords don't bounce as fast off it as opposed to your blade. Makes for better arm sniping. Love the artwork on it. As always, put a stabby on it. :D
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Re: New sword

Postby Blackwolfe » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:56 pm

Give us the stats Azrael. How long overall, how wide, blade length, how heavy, etc...
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Re: New sword

Postby Sir Azrael » Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:05 pm

Overall length: 36.5 in
Blade length: 18.5 in
Haft padding length: 9.75 in
Handle length: 4.75 in
Pomel length: 3.5 in

Blade flat: 3.25 in
Blade width: 1.25

Weight: 13 ounces
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Re: New sword

Postby Magpie Saegar » Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:50 am

I've got me a sword like that. Fun to fight with cause it's nice and quick. PARTICULARLY fun to fight against, because I can just grab the incidental padding to block it, or rip it right from my opponent's hand.
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Re: New sword

Postby Rizel » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:23 pm

I like longer hilts, though I don't fight with them often enough. Usually sword and shield. Is there a preferred style of fighting with these?
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Re: New sword

Postby Thumbs » Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:41 am

they work really well for wrap shots and throw shots. I use a long handed red that's good for that. actually just finished a blue that's close to the same as this today.
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Re: New sword

Postby No'Vak » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:30 am

What exactly is a throw shot?

And you wrap with long handled reds?
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Re: New sword

Postby Kraesh » Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:33 pm

If I'm right a throw shot is usually used by people who pommel fight and you act like you are throwing a football and you snap right at the end of the swing, allowing the weight on the end of the weapon to pop. Usually it's used to get those collarbone and shoulder shots. Reverend does it all the time and gets that vulcan death grip shot right on the borderline between neck and collarbone.

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Re: New sword

Postby Arrakis » Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:03 am

You don't throw wraps with long weapons. It's dumb. Unless it's an outside arm wrap. In which case it's still slow as balls with a red-length weapon.
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Re: New sword

Postby DJordan » Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:34 pm

I shure hope he doesn't try wrapin with a red. I have never heard of a "throw" shot, and it has givin me the * face still as I post this. Thumbs I hope you come to chaos so I can see what you are talking about.
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Re: New sword

Postby Big King Jimmy » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:07 am

The traditional name for what your describing as a throw shot is a gravity drop. Imagine throwing a normal shield side shoulder chop. But you end the shot with your hand about 3 or 4 inches higher than their shield edge, and allow gravity to pull the sword down past where you can really throw the shot, almost letting go of it a little.
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Re: New sword

Postby DJordan » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:54 am

That I am familiar with, thanks Jim.
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Re: New sword

Postby Quickie » Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:39 pm

or even more commonly called a pop shot.... either way i chimed in to contest the notion of anti-red wrap, i've seen some quick and angry one handed min-red wraps with at the least a foot o handle.

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Re: New sword

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Re: New sword

Postby Arrakis » Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:28 am

Quickie wrote:i've seen some quick and angry one handed min-red wraps with at the least a foot o handle.


That's cool.

It's still dumb 99% of the time.

I've seen some crazy **** work, once. That doesn't mean I'm going to start doing it on a regular basis.
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Re: New sword

Postby Tiercel » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:30 am

Arrakis wrote:I've seen some crazy **** work, once. That doesn't mean I'm going to start doing it on a regular basis.
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Re: New sword

Postby Djoske » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:37 am

I love the paint and artwork,the design is interesting,but i personaly wouldn't use it,i like the blade as long as possible and the handle just as big as 2 of my hands can grab :)
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Re: New sword

Postby Shell » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:14 am

What did you use for the core? Is the blade standard camp pad, or something special? What is the handle padded with, and is it oblong?
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Re: New sword

Postby frazzgnarth » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:56 am

Since this has already been necro'ed, I have a question that's been bugging me lately. I've seen a few swords now recently where people have placed designs on the flat of their sword cover, and after experience with the sword covers I've made have been wondering: How do you keep the cover from twisting during combat and making that pretty design look retarded?

None of the various changes I've made to covers to try and prevent twisting have given me any sort of success.
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Re: New sword

Postby Arrakis » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:54 pm

Put it near the handle and tape the cover down at the handle?
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Re: New sword

Postby No'Vak » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:58 pm

Tight cover?
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Re: New sword

Postby Sir Azrael » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:24 pm

Shell wrote:What did you use for the core? Is the blade standard camp pad, or something special? What is the handle padded with, and is it oblong?


The core is my favorite that I've been using for awhile, it's 2 1/4 inch highmarkers (fiberclass). It is just blue camp pad. The handle - the hafting? It's pipe insulation with a blue piece of foam wraped around (that's what the white line is). It's oblonged with just 2 more pieces of the highmarkers, and then wraped in 3/8 in rope.
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Re: New sword

Postby Shell » Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:20 pm

What are the advantages of using a "double core" design over a single core? How do you attach the two cores together? How strong/heavy/stiff is the double 1/4" fiberglass core compared to a .524" hollow fiberglass core? how would you attach the first layer of foam seeing as the "blade" edge of the core is only 1/4" wide?
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Re: New sword

Postby Sir Azrael » Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:19 pm

The only advantages that I can get from them, which I like, is that they're easily available at home depot, and it makes the sword alot lighter. I attach the two rods together by first, spraying them with 3mm spray adhesive, then taping the two ends and putting a beed of hot glue down the center....kinda in the same since in welding, as I've seen.

Here's a picture of how I put the foam on, and the blade result is 1.25 inch, instead of 1.5 inch.
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Re: New sword

Postby No'Vak » Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:23 pm

Azrael wrote:The only advantages that I can get from them, which I like, is that they're easily available at home depot, and it makes the sword alot lighter. I attach the two rods together by first, spraying them with 3mm spray adhesive, then taping the two ends and putting a beed of hot glue down the center....kinda in the same since in welding, as I've seen.

Here's a picture of how I put the foam on, and the blade result is 1.25 inch, instead of 1.5 inch.
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Re: New sword

Postby Sir Azrael » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:54 pm

I agree, but I work with what I have and know. Liquid nails sound like a good thing to get into though, so thanks
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Re: New sword

Postby Shell » Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:29 pm

I am of the opinion that someone should start cataloging these sword construction ideas on the wikia. Advanced blue construction tutorial anyone?
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Re: New sword

Postby No'Vak » Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:34 pm

Double high marker cored swords with blue foam isn't advanced.
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Re: New sword

Postby Sir Azrael » Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:59 pm

Haha, not at all.
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Re: New sword

Postby Arrakis » Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:33 pm

Shell wrote:What are the advantages of using a "double core" design over a single core? How do you attach the two cores together? How strong/heavy/stiff is the double 1/4" fiberglass core compared to a .524" hollow fiberglass core? how would you attach the first layer of foam seeing as the "blade" edge of the core is only 1/4" wide?


If you have an appropriate single core, there is no advantage, ever.

Double 1/4" is WAY more flexible than .524 kite.
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Re: New sword

Postby Sir Azrael » Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:46 pm

Arrakis wrote:
Shell wrote:What are the advantages of using a "double core" design over a single core? How do you attach the two cores together? How strong/heavy/stiff is the double 1/4" fiberglass core compared to a .524" hollow fiberglass core? how would you attach the first layer of foam seeing as the "blade" edge of the core is only 1/4" wide?


If you have an appropriate single core, there is no advantage, ever.

Double 1/4" is WAY more flexible than .524 kite.


Yes, it might be, but it's not too flexible, and I can get it easily.
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Re: New sword

Postby Ingvar Ironside » Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:53 pm

Yea, the big advantage with the driveway markers is availability. You can usually just snag 'em off the side of the road.
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Re: New sword

Postby Raz » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:45 am

I have a design on the side of my sword all the way up the blade. It doesn't twist as long as the cover is heavy enough: I used duck cloth and I've never had a problem with twisting. It's not particularly tight, either.
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Re: New sword

Postby Atman » Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:21 am

Raz, please check the dates on these before posting. If it is much more than a month old and not critically relevant, let it RIP lest the enormous pack of board-trolling f-tards present here make you their latest mark.
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