Dome Shield Mats

[Pig]

Alright, so I bought a saucer sled and the people at practice says it's too flimsy to be made into a shield, even with like five layers of blue foam on it.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKKKKKK

Anyways then, I want a dome shield. A big one. I can't seem to find a saucer sled anywhere online (I know how impossible this sounds) That is big, thick, and round enough to satisfy my needs.

Anyone who's got a dome shield, where did you get your shield? Or more specifically, those who bought it on line.. where'd you get it?

Alright,

Pig.

[Caleidah]

Honestly, it should be fine with five layers on it. Hell, that's what most coreless shields are, unless I'm mistaken.

[Pig]

Honestly, it should be fine with five layers on it. Hell, that's what most coreless shields are, unless I'm mistaken.

Christ, then what were they talking about?

[Rasheab]

Good question; 5 layers should be plenty. What did they say the problem was? Does it taco?

[Pig]

Good question; 5 layers should be plenty. What did they say the problem was? Does it taco?

Yes is it does taco pretty bad.

It's just one sheet of plastic pressed into a mold

[Dawken]

If your worried about that taco thing add some aluminum bands to the backside. Drill holes through the shield and bands and do it like you would a strap shield. That should stiffin it up enough. I mean people make punch shields out of just foam. I know sled shields have been made before. They can end up cracking and breaking but everything eventually fails.

[Kyrian]

Another option is to take two of the shields and glue them together. It's going to add weight but it should make the shield core considerably stiffer.

[Cade]

Five layers of blue if dapped properly will not taco.

You don't need anything else.

[Arrakis]

How are they checking the taco/flex of the shield?

Also, a simple rectangle of plywood tie-wrapped into the plastic core where your arm goes should stiffen it incredibly.

[Trodaire]

Maybe you can look for an old satellite dish. Used to have a 30" dish my dad converted into a sled when I was younger. That thing got buffed to a super polish after a while just from the friction.

[Thorondor]

Maybe you can look for an old satellite dish. Used to have a 30" dish my dad converted into a sled when I was younger. That thing got buffed to a super polish after a while just from the friction.

How about no...that kind of defeats the purpose of using a sled (weight). If you want a solid core, get a wood core, cheaper & easier.

[Trodaire]

[/quote] How about no...that kind of defeats the purpose of using a sled (weight). If you want a solid core, get a wood core, cheaper & easier.[/quote]

Aluminum is possibly even lighter than any wood worth using, and it's what many of the older satellite dishes are made of. Old mesh steel satellite dishes may even be lighter than good 1/4" plywood.

[Thorondor]

How about no...that kind of defeats the purpose of using a sled (weight). If you want a solid core, get a wood core, cheaper & easier.

Aluminum is possibly even lighter than any wood worth using, and it's what many of the older satellite dishes are made of. Old mesh steel satellite dishes may even be lighter than good 1/4" plywood.

Um...a sled would be used as a "core" because it's lighter than aluminum and would be in place of a foam plank...if you want a cored shield, you want some weight behind it normally, which means you wouldn't want something LIGHTER than wood...

Unless of course you're a weak * limp wrist fighter and then you might want a light as can be cored shield...YMMV

[Tiercel]

How about no...that kind of defeats the purpose of using a sled (weight). If you want a solid core, get a wood core, cheaper & easier.

Aluminum is possibly even lighter than any wood worth using, and it's what many of the older satellite dishes are made of. Old mesh steel satellite dishes may even be lighter than good 1/4" plywood.

Um...a sled would be used as a "core" because it's lighter than aluminum and would be in place of a foam plank...if you want a cored shield, you want some weight behind it normally, which means you wouldn't want something LIGHTER than wood...

Unless of course you're a weak * limp wrist fighter and then you might want a light as can be cored shield...YMMV

If I'm reading your post correctly, you state that a plastic sled would build a better shield than the aluminum dish because it would build a lighter shield. You then state that a wooden core would be better than an aluminum dish because it is heavier. Then you say something strange, possibly because you need to tell people you are not limp-wristed.

Pig, I agree with Kade- I see many structurally-sound shields that have no core. However, a core is good feature to have, and I like the extra mass of a solid core shield. I recommend listening to Kyrian's advice especially. I've seen him fight with an excellent domed shield. But I believe the one I'm thinking of was also coreless.

[Thorondor]

Tiercel,
You're dead on with most of your comments about me.

Either go with a light, cheap, easier to find sled or go with a heavy, semi-cheap, easy to find wood core. Don't try to find an in-the middle weight, not so cheap, hard to find core because it is not the best option available to you. There's a reason there aren't any satellite dish cored shields...and that's because it's a sub-par material. It's even worse than SCH 80 PVC spears, at least those can sort of work well.

And anyways, I'm an archer for the most part now, so it doesn't matter to me what your shield is made out of, I just have to catch you not looking for a split second

[MorganDrakeheart]

FYI they got rid of the Taco Rule.

Taco it up all you like :/

[Arrakis]

FYI they got rid of the Taco Rule.

Taco it up all you like :/

No, they didn't.

2.2.1. Shields and Bucklers are rigid objects that are padded on the front and sides, and are equipped with handles or straps. A Shield may not be constructed in a manner that would confer the advantage of unbreakable armor.

[GridPoet]

what Kade said...

my core-less is BIG, as is the one he uses, and they are 5-6 layers of blue with plenty of DAP...

we are the crazy guys that go jumping into a line shield first for fun and i've yet to see one of our shields even budge...

i would go 4 layers on the front of the sled and one on the back, if the shield is too wide to use a single sheet of blue foam, just make sure to rotate your seams for added strength...

and Arrakis is totally correct, if your still a little worried, a small disc of 1/4 birch plywood in the center will do you up nicely...

i'm actually planning on making one of these as soon as sleds come back in the store (cause i'm an idiot and forgot to get one last winter

[Blackwolfe]

Unless My 7am eyes are reading this wrong he hasn't made the shield, he hasn't added any blue foam to it yet. His realm mates are judging it on the core sled alone.

Five layers of blue foam dap'd well should not taco under normal use. (dap'd well being a key factor).

Make sure the dap covers the entire surface well, dry spots/disbond allows flex.

[MorganDrakeheart]

FYI they got rid of the Taco Rule.

Taco it up all you like :/

No, they didn't.

2.2.1. Shields and Bucklers are rigid objects that are padded on the front and sides, and are equipped with handles or straps. A Shield may not be constructed in a manner that would confer the advantage of unbreakable armor.

Well then what was everyone * about at Spring Wars?

[Arrakis]

FYI they got rid of the Taco Rule.

Taco it up all you like :/

No, they didn't.

2.2.1. Shields and Bucklers are rigid objects that are padded on the front and sides, and are equipped with handles or straps. A Shield may not be constructed in a manner that would confer the advantage of unbreakable armor.

Well then what was everyone * about at Spring Wars?

Their own illiteracy?


But no, a lot of people don't realize that the word "rigid" in that rule is, in fact, the taco rule and can be applied to fail floppy shields with great prejudice.

[Cu_]

For sure. My sled aspis (with 1 inch of polyeth and 1.5 inches of ensolite) has passed at events reliably for well over a year, yet failed, for the first time, at Fest. The nature of the rigidity rule is subjective. It sucks when good shields fail for a little bit of flex (yielded with quite a bit of effort, mind you), but I would rather have that than establish a max flex angle.

[Illano]

shields can't flex more than 26.5 degrees!

[Peregrine]

that.s not a rule.

[Slagar]

* Yeah, dude. We stopped failing shields for taco in Bel a few years ago. At this point you basically need exposed core or exposed handle or, I donno, freakin' razorblades in the edge to get a shield to fail.

[Arrakis]

* Yeah, dude. We stopped failing shields for taco in Bel a few years ago. At this point you basically need exposed core or exposed handle or, I donno, freakin' razorblades in the edge to get a shield to fail.

or just trolling...

[Soo Ma Tai]

I will still fail a shield that is not "rigid". IDK what everyone else is doing.

[Atman]

I definitely saw checkers at fest scrutinizing shields for "taco", the difference between the "rigid object" definition and the taco rule seem like one of semantics. Then again, some checkers seem less than well versed in the BoW