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 Post subject: hand and a half sword
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:42 am 
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Ok, i made myself a few weapons now and i have a question on labeling with tape. one of my swords is a hand and a half sword, meaning it can be used as 2 handed or one handed. For labeling this, should i just use red tape, blue tape, both, or am i not allowed to use a weapon like this? I could not find anything in the BoW on this so help from a vet would be greatly appreciated.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:03 am 
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If it is over 48 inches in overall length, use red tape.

If it is under 48 inches in overall length, use blue tape.

The class the weapon must conform to is determined by the weapon's length, not the number of hands you can put on the handle. Two-handed blues can exist, but you get no benefit from using one with both hands like you do with a red. Also, some single-blue tourneys won't allow you to use a blue two-handed.

If your "* sword" is red, then red is red. If you use it two-handed, you'll score two points of damage to target areas and will be able to damage shields. It will only score damage the same way as a blue does when you use it one-handed, but it is still a red and will be checked at weapon check as one.

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 Post subject: Re: hand and a half sword
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:30 am 
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Thanks, that helps, But are you allowed to use a red weapon with a shield? if you use a red weapon with one hand, it doesn't have the shield breaking and two point hits, right?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:02 am 
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You can use a red one handed and hold a shield in the other hand if you like. You're correct on it only doing Blue damage and losing its shield breaking ability.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:21 am 
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thank you, so the best chance i have it to just label it red and use it as blue when needed?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:45 am 
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Yep. If you use a punch shield at the same time it has been given the nickname of "punch and pie".


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:23 pm 
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Why punch and pie? I never understood that.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:55 pm 
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i was going to ask that too, but i figured i would just let that one go.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:17 pm 
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Because you have your punch and a delicious slice?

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XD possibly, but im not quite sure that "slice" would tase very good.

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Weight has a factor on it being a blue or red. If its not atleast 24oz. Doesn't matter if its 48in. Or not. If your going to make it that long might as well make it a red.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:45 am 
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Weight has a factor on it being a blue or red. If its not atleast 24oz. Doesn't matter if its 48in. Or not. If your going to make it that long might as well make it a red.

If it is over 48 inches, but under 24 ounces, it doesn't pass. It's not a blue. It doesn't make it to the field.

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1.4.1.3. With the exception of double-ended weapons, a Class 1 Weapon must be shorter than forty-eight (48) inches.

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Dawken wrote:
Weight has a factor on it being a blue or red. If its not atleast 24oz. Doesn't matter if its 48in. Or not. If your going to make it that long might as well make it a red.

If it is over 48 inches, but under 24 ounces, it doesn't pass. It's not a blue. It doesn't make it to the field.

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1.4.1.3. With the exception of double-ended weapons, a Class 1 Weapon must be shorter than forty-eight (48) inches.

I'd like to see the rule stating this. I was gonna make a 50" two hander that is extremely light (under the weight limit for a red) for dueling purposes. IF this is true, then I'd have to put a stop to it....

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:21 pm 
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max weight and length for blue
1.4.1.2. A Class 1 Weapon twenty-four (24) inches in length or longer must weigh a minimum of twelve (12) ounces.
1.4.1.3. With the exception of double-ended weapons, a Class 1 Weapon must be shorter than forty-eight (48) inches.

tso that makes it to where a blue has to be under 48 in and 12 oz or more

and the minimum for reds

1.4.2.1. The minimum length is forty-eight (48) inches.
1.4.2.2. The minimum weight is twenty-four (24) ounces.

so no 50 in under 24 oz red for you :fingers:


youve been fighting longer than me and didnt know this?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:41 pm 
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I have no idea why its called punch and pie. Ask Mel.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:14 am 
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It sounds like a tasty combo, I tell you what. Personally, I just wear a shield on my back.
I believe that style is called "cheating".
Or at least it feels like it lol

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max weight and length for blue
1.4.1.2. A Class 1 Weapon twenty-four (24) inches in length or longer must weigh a minimum of twelve (12) ounces.
1.4.1.3. With the exception of double-ended weapons, a Class 1 Weapon must be shorter than forty-eight (48) inches.

tso that makes it to where a blue has to be under 48 in and 12 oz or more

and the minimum for reds

1.4.2.1. The minimum length is forty-eight (48) inches.
1.4.2.2. The minimum weight is twenty-four (24) ounces.

so no 50 in under 24 oz red for you :fingers:


youve been fighting longer than me and didnt know this?

Great to know! Sounds like I can't do the baby sword thing....

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:52 pm 
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It sounds like a tasty combo, I tell you what. Personally, I just wear a shield on my back.
I believe that style is called "cheating".
Or at least it feels like it lol


XD love it

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Dawken wrote:
Weight has a factor on it being a blue or red. If its not atleast 24oz. Doesn't matter if its 48in. Or not. If your going to make it that long might as well make it a red.

If it is over 48 inches, but under 24 ounces, it doesn't pass. It's not a blue. It doesn't make it to the field.

Book of War wrote:
1.4.1.3. With the exception of double-ended weapons, a Class 1 Weapon must be shorter than forty-eight (48) inches.

I'd like to see the rule stating this. I was gonna make a 50" two hander that is extremely light (under the weight limit for a red) for dueling purposes. IF this is true, then I'd have to put a stop to it....


Build it on 3/4" sturdy Tonken bamboo and then weight it up to exactly 24.5 oz.

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