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Katana, single sided sword.

Postby Wart » Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:28 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=WHK ... =endscreen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-uoas5n ... ure=relmfu
Hello, just trying to see if this katana design is bel legal.. Obviously making the tip conform to the "no more than .5" through a 2.5" hole" rule... So I'm just questioning if the designs are legal or not.. Thanks.
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Re: Katana, single sided sword.

Postby Cyric » Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:42 am

That thing will probably fall apart very quickly, if it even passes a hit test. Almost everything about the construction of that is wrong for this game.
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Re: Katana, single sided sword.

Postby Wart » Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:34 am

It's got the sort of box thing going on. And the blade.... What would make it fall apart quickly?
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Re: Katana, single sided sword.

Postby Cyric » Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:55 am

1. the foam used in it is mostly crap.
2. the placement of the seam is on the striking surface, rather than on the flat. this will cause trouble with the way it hits, and make it more likely for the dap to fail.
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Re: Katana, single sided sword.

Postby Wart » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:16 pm

I use camp pad all the time :P. Sure it doesn't last forever, but you get what you can afford.
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Re: Katana, single sided sword.

Postby Remdawg Killionaire » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:30 pm

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Re: Katana, single sided sword.

Postby Wart » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:52 pm

Cyric wrote:1. the foam used in it is mostly crap.
2. the placement of the seam is on the striking surface, rather than on the flat. this will cause trouble with the way it hits, and make it more likely for the dap to fail.

By the way, if the seam is sanded to be smooth, the dap would work fine.
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Re: Katana, single sided sword.

Postby Taxfrog » Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:19 pm

One thing is DAP is a little more "rigid" than the foam, so there will be stiff seam running down the blade. Another is that DAP is not uber strongs, so after beating on it for a few fights, the seam most likely will start to split. Considering that you have a solid core inside pressing against the seam with every blow, you'd end up coring someone sooner than later.
Go dap 2 peices of crap blue foam together, wait a couple days, then pull them apart. See how easy that was? You don't want that happening on the field.

There's a great blue tutorial on the wiki for getting started with builds.
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Re: Katana, single sided sword.

Postby Wart » Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:01 pm

I've already made a couple of blues.... to make the blade not on the seam, how bout putting the L shaped piece in the middle to be able to bring the sides together on the flat... then shape the blade?
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Re: Katana, single sided sword.

Postby Faenor » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:22 am

If you want to know if a single bladed sword is legal for bel., than your answer would be yes. The unanimous no's have been in response to whether or not that specific katana you made would pass (which would be a no).

While blue foam is readily available, few people can make a weapon from it that either a) passes weapons check b) lasts longer than a few practices. A re-blade kit is $6 bucks and you easily spend more repairing a weapon made from lesser materials.

On the other hand I watched your Pride of Lannerea and how you guys make and use any kind of weapon as long as it is safe by your groups standards. I think you just have to put in perspective that your groups requirements are not the same as the national ones. If you don't see yourself going to many national events, than who the **** cares. It's belegarth; just have fun.
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Re: Katana, single sided sword.

Postby Sluj » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:32 am

[quote="Faenor"]While blue foam is readily available, few people can make a weapon from it that either a) passes weapons check b) lasts longer than a few practices. A re-blade kit is $6 bucks and you easily spend more repairing a weapon made from lesser materials.[quote=]

Blue foam isn't as bad as you make it sound, I have several weapons made out of it that haven't had to reblade at all and have passed every event this year and last.
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Re: Katana, single sided sword.

Postby Forkbeard » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:08 am

That katana design will fall apart.
THe seams will split no matter how good you glue it.
THe tip will fold and fail instantly.
If weapons like this survive combat, your group does not hit hard enough.
And, since you are argueing with every negative response, why did you ask?
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Re: Katana, single sided sword.

Postby Wart » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:21 pm

Faenor wrote:On the other hand I watched your Pride of Lannerea and how you guys make and use any kind of weapon as long as it is safe by your groups standards. I think you just have to put in perspective that your groups requirements are not the same as the national ones. If you don't see yourself going to many national events, than who the **** cares. It's belegarth; just have fun.

Lol, I have nothing to do with Lannarea, I fight Bel and came across this vid on youtube. I thought it was cool, I want to make it, but wanted to see what the opinions of others were.
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Re: Katana, single sided sword.

Postby Faenor » Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:12 pm

If I sounded anti-blue foam I did not mean to. Wart just mentioned that he was using "what was available" and since re-blade kits and materials are only a click away. . .

Any who, my opinion is make a sword with two striking sides. One blade may end up limiting your shot selection. The biggest thing I would worry about is dying, walking off the field, and having someone else pick up your weapon and unknowingly strike someone with the non-bladed side.

My two cents, take it or don't.
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Re: Katana, single sided sword.

Postby Matthias - Dun Abhon » Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:39 am

Faenor wrote:If I sounded anti-blue foam I did not mean to. Wart just mentioned that he was using "what was available" and since re-blade kits and materials are only a click away. . .

Any who, my opinion is make a sword with two striking sides. One blade may end up limiting your shot selection. The biggest thing I would worry about is dying, walking off the field, and having someone else pick up your weapon and unknowingly strike someone with the non-bladed side.

My two cents, take it or don't.

There's a rule that covers this:
Book of War wrote:1.4.4.2. Single-edge Weapons must have their non-striking edge clearly marked with at least a 12-inch piece of contrasting tape.
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Re: Katana, single sided sword.

Postby Arrakis » Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:12 pm

Unless the tutorial specifically says that the weapon is suitable for Belegarth (and maybe Dagorhir) combat, it's not. Guaranteed. We're the very top of the foamfighting heap when it comes to weapons construction standards and abuse we ask our gear to withstand. Sometimes even crap that says it's good for Bel or Dag isn't good enough, but if it says it's for some LARP or state/regional battlegame, it's just not gonna work for Bel.
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