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 Post subject: Sling Bow/ Pocket Hunter
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:13 pm 
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I have a question regarding the legality of a specific archery weapon that I haven't seen mentioned before on the forum. Before I discovered Belegarth, I was a fan of hunting using the Pathfinder Pocket hunter. This is a brand of sling bow [a bow modified to shoot arrows]. The Pocket Hunter maxes out at 30lb at 28 inches, within the legal parameters. It's arrow rest also acts as a draw stop, preventing the user from drawing passed the 28 inch mark. I've attached a link to a picture as a reference.

I've yet to see this weapon used in any foam fighting sports [I have some limited experience outside of Belegarth with Amtgard and Darkon] and am curious as to whether this would pass any weapon inspection passed a local level. Thanks in advance for the help!

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 Post subject: Re: Sling Bow/ Pocket Hunter
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:31 pm 
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I am interested in this as well. the hard part would making the draw stops.

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 Post subject: Re: Sling Bow/ Pocket Hunter
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:38 pm 
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The arrow rest would also act as a draw stop. The hole is far too small for the foam end of an arrow to pass through.


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 Post subject: Re: Sling Bow/ Pocket Hunter
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:58 pm 
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That's not what a draw stop is, and I'd wager that an arrow picked at randomly would pass through that hole. Do you have a link to a purchasing website? I'd also wonder if the bands would damage the nock of the arrow. nocks are needed for passing arrows.

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 Post subject: Re: Sling Bow/ Pocket Hunter
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:04 pm 
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Also I'm sure some nerd will point out that slingshots are post gunpowder.

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 Post subject: Re: Sling Bow/ Pocket Hunter
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:23 pm 
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True, but if you want to be a stickler for materials used in Blegarth, almost everything used in the building materials for weapons nowadays would be disqualified. I'd understand the argument for something like SCA, but you'd be hard pressed to convince me in this context. I'll try bringing it to Muxlovia this coming saturday and see how it performs in the field and gauge a few people's impressions. I'd really like to see more people using these since they're affordable, easy to use, and above all, conform to the safety standards.


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 Post subject: Re: Sling Bow/ Pocket Hunter
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:37 pm 
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I am friends with lots of muxlovians I will be waiting to hear their responses with bated breath.

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 Post subject: Re: Sling Bow/ Pocket Hunter
PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:13 am 
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What we make our equipment from has little to do with the historicity we're aiming for. As you pointed out we aren't the SCA, but Belegarth is still a medieval themed sport. Something like this seems far too modern to fit in on the field. I'm sure they'd be perfectly safe and playable.

As far as drawstops, Tails, I think that most stops would catch on the handle, just before the eye, in the same manner that they catch on arrow rests on our current bows.

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 Post subject: Re: Sling Bow/ Pocket Hunter
PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:12 pm 
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Update:

I brought the sling bow to a Muxlovia practice this evening and was informed by another fighter who owned the exact one I did that they are typically allowed for practices in most cases, but will not pass a weapons check for a major event for the lack of historical accuracy.

Despite not being a valid choice for any event, I still recommend them for teaching fundamentals of archery to newer fighters since much of the skill set transitions easily to bow with the added bonus of being 1/3 to 1/2 the price of most bows.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:17 pm 
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Many of the important fundamentals of archery as they relate to our game have to do with how to use a bow safely during combat. This wouldn't help teach those, and might contribute to bad habits. For that reason, I wouldn't allow this on our field, and I strongly encourage other realms to do the same.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:48 pm 
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I very much agree with this. Why would I use and allow the use of equipment not for the national field? Practice is for events. While I understand the idea of lowering barriers of entry they are pretty low if you know who to ask and where to look.

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