ninja suit :D

[ripexz]

Would wearing a full ninja suit which i have count as wearing garb?

Becuase ninjas were there even before Dark/Medieval Ages, even though they aren't from Europe.

Are other types of clothing like arabian desert suits and stuff considered garb?

oh and btw, are katanas, scimitars and other dark age perion non-european weapons allowed if they are safe?

thanks

[Jay HellHammer]

Yes non-western garb and weapons are allowed and encouraged. Unfortunately most of the time due to padding etc most weapons end up looking the same. Just remember make the ninja suit well the $25 one from the costume store won't cut it.

[ripexz]

Yes non-western garb and weapons are allowed and encouraged. Unfortunately most of the time due to padding etc most weapons end up looking the same. Just remember make the ninja suit well the $25 one from the costume store won't cut it.

i got a proper one for 50 euro, plus i bought tabi boots for another 20 euro. Its a pretty good one and well, a realistic one! Not them stupid childlish decorated type

oh and about the weapons, are katanas allowed to be without pommels? cause the real ones dont have them, so it would look kind of stupid

[Tobia Blackthorn]

Any sword in Bel still needs a pommel, no matter what it is representing.

Oh, and the depiction of the "ninja suit" originated after the ninja were even in heavy use anymore. Most ninja wore whatever they needed to blend in. Think about it, if you were caught, in say a museum, wearing the usual "theif gear" look, you'd draw attention. But if you went in with jeans and a sweater...you'd blen in much better. Same applies to the feudal ninja. Also, the idea we have of a ninja now comes from the sengoku period, which was in the 1500's.

[Arrakis]

Don't be a ninja. You live in Ireland. Try, I don't know, a Celt or a Saxon or a Viking.

[Ilariia Bulochnika]

Or throw everyone off and be a Scotsman!

[Rasheab]

And wear boots. Ankle support is your friend, and it protects your foot when you shield kick. (And when people step on your feet.)

'Specially since it's my impression the Emerald Isles are almost as wet as Washington, and except in the summer (sometimes) wearing tabi outside would be horrible here.

Already been answered, but to reiterate:

1) All weapons need pommels. No exceptions, besides obvious ones (arrows, double ended weapons)

2) Pretty much "medieval" means "pre-gunpowder." Historic or fantasy, region doesn't matter. Even post gunpowder is alright, so long as you leave it out. (Musketeers, Caribean era pirates, Steampunk.)

3) Dress like you're from Braveheart. The Irishman is one of the best characters -ever- (right there with Mercutio).

[Arrakis]

All weapons need pommels. No exceptions, besides obvious ones (arrows, double ended weapons)
...
Pretty much "medieval" means "pre-gunpowder." Historic or fantasy, region doesn't matter.

Except for the above quote, don't listen to Rasheab.

[Rasheab]

Really Arrakis? You a boot hater now?

...wear boots. Ankle support is your friend, and it protects your foot when you shield kick. (And when people step on your feet.)

[ripexz]

um ok...
i'll think of something...
I dont really wanna dress as an irish man. I'm not even Irish, I just live here for the last 3 years

I'll probably go barefoot and glue lots of hair on my feet and say i'm a hobbit

[Arrakis]

I'll probably go barefoot and glue lots of hair on my feet and say i'm a hobbit :D

Awesome.



Rasheab, the only time I've twisted an ankle so far in any of this medieval crap was when I was wearing boots that prevented me from turning my ankle to a position where I could have landed fine. I've never hurt my feet wearing low-top stuff. It's all dependent upon the specific equipment.

[No'Vak]

I practice bare foot.

I go to events with boots, because my campsite is almost always muddy. Like dinosaur poop muddy.

[ripexz]

I practice bare foot.

I go to events with boots, because my campsite is almost always muddy. Like dinosaur poop muddy.

i love barefooting, i always go tricking barefooting. but yah it sucks when its muddy, its too slippy.

wet grass is slippy too but not as bad, though after spending 2 hrs on it my sole was gone kinda wrinkyishly soggily white and it hurt to walk and i got a cold

"cool story, bro"?

[Rasheab]

Ahh, fair enough then Arrakis.

I have tons of respect for the barefooters, but I think y'all are crazy.

[Sir_Mel]

Ankle support is only really necessary if you have poor footwork. Moving properly = fewer injuries.

[Derian]

Or if you have weak ankles, calf and foot muscles from buying into the 'ankle support' myth your entire life.

Barring injury (naturally), anyone has the potential to be barefoot or wear minimal shoes. What do you think all those millions of years of evolution did? Give us feet that require shoes we just invented 30 years ago?

[Teej]

um ok...
i'll think of something...

Don't be so easily dissuaded... be what you want to be and have fun. If you're worried about what other people are going to think... just do whatever you're doing good.

IE: Someone claiming to be a werewolf (another taboo persona here) running around mid-day with **** garb (ie torn sweats and T-shirt), a rubber mask, and howling like a moron is bound to keep that very taboo.

If you want to do a ninja, do a ninja... Most people's problems with ninja personas is that people dress in black and tell everyone they're a ninja. While they should really dress like farmers or even Samurai historically... or dress like your typical belegrim (hakama and tabard should do, or your mother's skirt) for the sake of blending.

But really... who gives a *? As long as you're having fun, go for it.

[Nibenon]

um ok...
i'll think of something...

Don't be so easily dissuaded... be what you want to be and have fun. If you're worried about what other people are going to think... just do whatever you're doing good.

IE: Someone claiming to be a werewolf (another taboo persona here) running around mid-day with **** garb (ie torn sweats and T-shirt), a rubber mask, and howling like a moron is bound to keep that very taboo.

If you want to do a ninja, do a ninja... Most people's problems with ninja personas is that people dress in black and tell everyone they're a ninja. While they should really dress like farmers or even Samurai historically... or dress like your typical belegrim (hakama and tabard should do, or your mother's skirt) for the sake of blending.

But really... who gives a *? As long as you're having fun, go for it.

QFT

[Big King Jimmy]

oh and about the weapons, are katanas allowed to be without pommels? cause the real ones dont have them, so it would look kind of stupid

What's a Katana? Do you see the word "Katana" anywhere in the rules?

Belegarth weapons are NOT their real life counter parts, they aren't epees or broadswords or claymores or any of that. They are a mass of core and foam and glue that are built to our rules set to represent those things, but the rules always come first.

[Teej]

oh and about the weapons, are katanas allowed to be without pommels? cause the real ones dont have them, so it would look kind of stupid

What's a Katana? Do you see the word "Katana" anywhere in the rules?

Belegarth weapons are NOT their real life counter parts, they aren't epees or broadswords or claymores or any of that. They are a mass of core and foam and glue that are built to our rules set to represent those things, but the rules always come first.

I believe I'm quoting Kyrian here:

Safety first, then playability, then finally realism.

[Mekoot Rowan]

Yeah, with the belegarth rule test you should pretty much just pick the oldest belegrim you can think of and attribute it to them.

[Oisin]

I believe I'm quoting Kyrian here:

Safety first, then playability, then finally realism.

You're quoting a piece of the Dag rules that's probably goes back to the 70's or 80's and is still bandied around in Belegarth even though it didn't make it into our ruleset.

Anyway, are you the only person in Cork who's trying to do Bel? I think you may be the first . . . there's an SCA group in Athlone, but to the best of my knowledge no boffer groups.

[ripexz]

Anyway, are you the only person in Cork who's trying to do Bel? I think you may be the first . . . there's an SCA group in Athlone, but to the best of my knowledge no boffer groups.

Well, we are the first, but I'm not the only one. We already found around 10 people interested, hopefully the first practice will be this saturday.

Theres some kind of medieval/renaissance society in UCC (University College Cork). They do real archery and swordfighting and they do battle recreation but as far as i know, they use real blunt weapons (at least how it looks from pictures, could be latex ones.), so i think its more of a LARP than real fighting.

[Ilariia Bulochnika]

Or a living history group.

[goishikawa]

What's a Katana? Do you see the word "Katana" anywhere in the rules?

i got this from Wikipedia....it says that katana is a type of Japanese sword (nihontō), also commonly referred to as a "samurai sword".[1] In the strictest sense, the term katana in Japanese is applied to any kind of single-edged sword, of any origin; contrary to common belief outside Japan, the Japanese word does not necessarily refer to a Japanese sword. But incorrectly or habitually, some Japanese and Western sword lovers define katana as the standard size moderately curved (as opposed to the older "tachi" style featuring more curvature) Japanese sword with a blade length of greater than 60 cm (23.6 inches).[2]

i don't see the word Katana in the rules...

[Nibenon]

You took jimmys post waaaay out of context and took it for the literal, that he doesnt know what a katana is. however if you looked for the satirical humor in his post you will find what he was getting at, or perhaps if you read the rest of his post.

Belegarth weapons are NOT their real life counter parts, they aren't epees or broadswords or claymores or katanas or any of that. They are a mass of core and foam and glue that are built to our rules set to represent those things, but the rules always come first.

edit: oh and welcome to the boards

[Teej]

Wow double facepalm... I'm not sure if he is ready for that.

[Nibenon]

he's close at the least..

[Derian]

You guys got taken by a bot.

[Big King Jimmy]

Shinanigans, were there links in there?

[Renell Calmcacil]

Or if you have health conditions that make your joints susceptible to injury.

Or if you have weak ankles, calf and foot muscles from buying into the 'ankle support' myth your entire life.

Barring injury (naturally), anyone has the potential to be barefoot or wear minimal shoes. What do you think all those millions of years of evolution did? Give us feet that require shoes we just invented 30 years ago?

[No'Vak]

Or if you have health conditions that make your joints susceptible to injury.

Or if you have weak ankles, calf and foot muscles from buying into the 'ankle support' myth your entire life.

Barring injury (naturally), anyone has the potential to be barefoot or wear minimal shoes. What do you think all those millions of years of evolution did? Give us feet that require shoes we just invented 30 years ago?

The years of natural selection would have got rid of people who were susceptible to injury, but modern medicine kind of **** that.

[Rasheab]

The years of natural selection would have got rid of people who were susceptible to injury, but modern medicine kind of **** that.

Fast breeding and luck. Tis how all the cool species survive.

[Dabbanoth]

Or if you have health conditions that make your joints susceptible to injury.

Or if you have weak ankles, calf and foot muscles from buying into the 'ankle support' myth your entire life.

Barring injury (naturally), anyone has the potential to be barefoot or wear minimal shoes. What do you think all those millions of years of evolution did? Give us feet that require shoes we just invented 30 years ago?

The years of natural selection would have got rid of people who were susceptible to injury, but modern medicine kind of **** that.

**** tell me about it.

[Teej]

The years of natural selection would have got rid of people who were susceptible to injury, but modern medicine kind of **** that.

Fast breeding and luck. Tis how all the cool species survive.

Roaches are far superior to us.

[Nibenon]

and rabbits.

[xexplox]

ok question.....does anyone know where i can buy a ronin or ninja straw hat? or is that illegal? ive no idea...helps?

[Beck]

If it isn't going to harm some one in a line battle and there are not any rules against knock yourself out.

[Magpie Saegar]

I think Lady Feri sells them cheaply at most events she's at. At least, she was selling them last spring war.

[Old Horse]

For straw hats you have three options:

Buy locally (the Lady Feri option works better since you can actually see and wear the hat before you pay for it):
Summer straw hats

Or if you are looking for authenticity, import one:
Bokunan-do
They do ship to the US, but it's rather expensive.

Or if you like crafts/have a lot of spare time, make your own:
How to make a japanese straw hat

[Agneezy]

finally search for it on amazon.com, they have a buttload

[KatsuoAssassin]

oh and btw, are katanas, scimitars and other dark age perion non-european weapons allowed if they are safe?

it depends in your place. even if they are safe but if its not allowed then you can't use it.

[No'Vak]

oh and btw, are katanas, scimitars and other dark age perion non-european weapons allowed if they are safe?

it depends in your place. even if they are safe but if its not allowed then you can't use it.

What exactly are you getting at?

[Argent]

yes u can have curved singled edged foam weapons as long they meet all the safety standards. u can heat pvc to make it curved btw just in case you were wondering, there have been post in the past so u can search for how to's if needed

[Big King Jimmy]

Can I just call in an air strike on this topic?

[Magpie Saegar]

Can I just call in an air strike on this topic?

Nuclear launch detected.
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[No'Vak]

Can I just call in an air strike on this topic?

Nuclear launch detected.
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Did somebody call for an exterminator?

[Agneezy]

GOOD EFFECT ON TARGET

[AwesomeFrancis]

Would wearing a full ninja suit which i have count as wearing garb?

Becuase ninjas were there even before Dark/Medieval Ages, even though they aren't from Europe.

Are other types of clothing like arabian desert suits and stuff considered garb?

oh and btw, are katanas, scimitars and other dark age perion non-european weapons allowed if they are safe?

thanks

why not? it's safe if the person use it in the right way.

[Teej]

Would wearing a full ninja suit which i have count as wearing garb?

Becuase ninjas were there even before Dark/Medieval Ages, even though they aren't from Europe.

Are other types of clothing like arabian desert suits and stuff considered garb?

oh and btw, are katanas, scimitars and other dark age perion non-european weapons allowed if they are safe?

thanks

why not? it's safe if the person use it in the right way.

Don't bring back an old topic without an actual contribution, you'll poke forum crybabies. I'm just giving friendly advice.

Welcome to Belegarth.