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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:12 pm 
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2 Garb Offenders of the week

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this isnt complete without the shield

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:13 pm 
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I present to you an Angry Santa's Elf...complete with Back shield

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:08 pm 
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Neither have failing garb. Apart from the shield and the quality of his hat, Cap there looks alright.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:04 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:22 pm 
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Actually, I think the Captain America knockoff is done pretty well. Minus the Army Digital Camo under the chainmail.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:33 pm 
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It may be passing garb, but the red, white, and blue bits on the Captain look like they were cut from a real flag - not cool, IMO, especially if he's actually in the military and not just a poser.

Taking this the route of "modern hats", how about the santa hat and what looks to just be a black fleece beanie cut up into a robbery mask?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:43 pm 
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Pants fail on Cap A. But I have to agree...I HOPE he didn't cut those pieces from a real flag...

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:34 pm 
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What does it matter if it was a real flag or not? It's just a flag.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:41 pm 
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It's called respect. If you don't understand why Islamic countries burn our flag and step on it and defile it, you need to go study that...then come back here and post that same question with knowledge backing your "its just a flag" comment.

here's a starting point

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:27 pm 
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captain America just SCREAMS to be shot with one of my pink arrows...the angry elf's only questionable item is her hat BUTT hats like that were actually done in ye old medieval times..it's just not mundane colors.

As far as cutting up the flag, isn't that treason to use it for that treason?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:06 pm 
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No, it's not a crime, per this website

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...Previous to Flag Day, June 14, 1923 there were no federal or state regulations governing display of the United States Flag. It was on this date that the National Flag Code was adopted by the National Flag Conference which was attended by representatives of the Army and Navy which had evolved their own procedures, and some 66 other national groups. This purpose of providing guidance based on the Army and Navy procedures relating to display and associated questions about the U. S. Flag was adopted by all organizations in attendance.

A few minor changes were made a year later during the Flag Day 1924 Conference, It was not until June 22, 1942 that Congress passed a joint resolution which was amended on December 22, 1942 to become Public Law 829; Chapter 806, 77th Congress, 2nd session. Exact rules for use and display of the flag (36 U.S.C. 173-178) as well as associated sections (36 U.S.C. 171) Conduct during Playing of the National Anthem, (36 U.S.C. 172) the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag, and Manner of Delivery were included.

This code is the guide for all handling and display of the Stars and Stripes. It does not impose penalties for misuse of the United States Flag. That is left to the states and to the federal government for the District of Columbia. Each state has its own flag law.

Criminal penalties for certain acts of desecration to the flag were contained in Title 18 of the United States Code prior to 1989. The Supreme Court decision in Texas v. Johnson; June 21, 1989, held the statute unconstitutional. This statute was amended when the Flag Protection Act of 1989 (Oct. 28, 1989) imposed a fine and/or up to I year in prison for knowingly mutilating, defacing, physically defiling, maintaining on the floor or trampling upon any flag of the United States. The Flag Protection Act of 1989 was struck down by the Supreme Court decision, United States vs. Eichman, decided on June 11, 1990.


While the Code empowers the President of the United States to alter, modify, repeal or prescribe additional rules regarding the Flag, no federal agency has the authority to issue 'official' rulings legally binding on civilians or civilian groups. Consequently, different interpretations of various provisions of the Code may continue to be made. The Flag Code may be fairly tested: 'No disrespect should be shown to the Flag of the United States of America.' Therefore, actions not specifically included in the Code may be deemed acceptable as long as proper respect is shown....


No crime; and one could argue that he is intending respect by using the flag as part of an evil-fighting superhero. IMO, unless you're Uncle Sam, it's tacky at best.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:16 pm 
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okies...thank you for posting that.

I agree it is tacky if he did such a thing, but we do not know if he did in fact.

If he did he should get an elizabethian collar put on him and forced to wear the "cone of shame" and placed into a penalty cardboard "box of shame" :devil:

Otherwise the same pattern can be achieved by sewing strips together. *fingers crossed he was not so stupid as to use a flag*

ok..just noticed the back of the tabbard...again hoping...it could be one of those pointy flag thingies that isn't actually a flag.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:30 pm 
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I know it is or was illegal to defile the flag. I know the flag code, and am aware of it's existence. It's still just a flag. He used it in a way that I don't consider disrespectful. Isn't disrespectful a subjective term? Seems sketchy to me.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:16 am 
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And if it is a real flag, what would you do about it? What's that, nothing? Oh, okay.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:56 am 
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And if it is a real flag, what would you do about it? What's that, nothing? Oh, okay.


Very well put Solusar. The only thing that is not garb on that guy is the camo pants and shirt underneath. But other than that, his garb is very cool and well planned out.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:43 am 
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It's called respect. If you don't understand why Islamic countries burn our flag and step on it and defile it, you need to go study that...then come back here and post that same question with knowledge backing your "its just a flag" comment.

here's a starting point


Countries don't burn flags, broslice. Individuals do **** like that. Don't be so nationalist.



PS: CapA fails for camo (explicitly banned), elf chick doesn't seem to fail, except perhaps for mundane shirt (can't tell from that photo). Unless those are black jeans or jeggings, which they could be, from the appearance of the side seam.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:37 am 
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cap A fail for camo. unsafe weapon (* is with the tape) and a an ugly shield.... truely they may not all fail but I expect someone to do better then that really.. those weapons suck

the goblin chick fails for leading with her god * head. having her feet planted and a TERRIBLE stance... her garb is fine yes event the stupid hat. You might be suprised to know that santa hats are... period?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:30 pm 
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Countries don't burn flags, broslice. Individuals do **** like that. Don't be so nationalist.


True, but what's wrong with nationalism?

I'm a Manifest Destiny-believing jingoist to the core, and believe we should still enforce the Monroe Doctrine.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:33 pm 
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Good god, people, get some **** perspective. The flag **** is besides the point, we have garb to ridicules, here.
Cap is clearly trying to get a rise out of people. People should have given him what he wanted and beat his **** * all day, and continualy told him why. He wont stop until you do.
His pant fail and he should have been put off the field for them. His hat, too, if its a ski hat.
Silly is the Goblin chick. She is in passing garb, but here swords are gay and so is the hat, although legal. She is 16 and can be handled by cool kids influencing her in cool ways.
Silly, if you read this, WHY ARE YOU NOT WEARING YOU'RE **** HELMET? And your totaly leaning forward again. Jesus, kid, your gonna break your brain.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:01 pm 
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RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE! GREEN SPERM!
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RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE! SOCCER FAN!
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RABBLE RABBLE NON PERIOD HAIR COLORING!!!
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RABBLE RABBLE!!! STOP THE INSANITY OR THIS IS THE FUTURE OF OUR SPORT!
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As a side note, when did patriotism become so out of style? Is it wrong to love one's home even though you may not agree with some of the things done in its name? A flag is a symbol of the country. I am not going to shoot someone for burning a flag. But I am not going to be cool with it, nor will I do it to my country or another. Respect. I am cool with respect. I know a bunch of red white and blue fabric. Meh... But

What does this have to do with the failing standards of garb that exist in the preventable world?

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Side note the last two aren't Bel and are meant for point of emphasis. This is what the standard practice, and some events, are turning into... Non period hair coloring is not an offense that can be prosecuted for by the garb police...

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:12 am 
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Durzo, you are a stupid ****.
Green dude is old news,
2 of your links are alreadt dead, wich means you link em from an image d
search.
Haiur colors is ALWAYA legal, dummy.
And you say the last 2 pkcs aren't Bel, but the show what our practice and events are coming to.
**** YOU RIGHT IN YOUR FACE.
if the pics are not of bel, HOW CAN IT BE" WHAT WERE COMING TO"?
seriously, douch, were trying to bust Bel fighters(or dag) for wearing illegal garb.
We are not just throwing up pics of nerds from the internets.
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I just gotta ask, if Silly and Cap were caught on camera and ridiculed, how does this guy slip through?!
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That's a pic of a few folks from my Amt Park and I believe it was taken at a fighter Pracitce mock Tourney that Burke ran as Champion. Amt Fighter Practices do not even require Garb at all (not that most of those that are sporting Jeans in that pic don't wear jeans on a normal park day... )


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Why go through all the trouble of sporting that awesome tabard with the expensive medieval pouch and shame it all with jeans?!?! That's just retarded.

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1.4.3 - Weapons, shields, garb, and armor may not have clearly mundane logos or prints, nor may be made with fluorescent/neon colors.


Cap fails for modern logos.
Silly is fine.
Pancakes garb is in a fluorescent color, and thus fails.

Fluorescence, in layman's terms, is any color that glows. Or, in simpler terms, very bright, non-natural colors.

He could wear the garb if it was in a salmon or a light crimson, but in general, if the color is bright enough to make people blink when they look at you, its too bright, and therefore a fluorescent color.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:27 am 
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Minus the camo pants/shirt I think Captain A looks okay. I do understand what you're saying, make no mistake, but I don't have any problems. But I guess I'm more lax on minimum garb then most people.

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Silly is a goblin who thinks candy and **** is a theme. She even runs around at events and pies people in the face with syrup. Also going with FB on this one. The helm would have been much more pimp.

Also I can address Capt. America. He's actually being serious, no joke on the get up. That's a guy named Nebel who is part of the National Guard. he shows great pride in his devotion to the US Military. He even tried to get his realm (that he rarely fights with because of obligations) to make a military service award for the realm members. The guy is a patriot and a comic book fan.

The flag is a page tabbard not an American flag. At least he has characterization and a theme unlike many fighters. Can't call out a guy for trying for sure. The getup reminds me of WWII Capt. America personally.

Also I LOATHE that picture of Pancakes in pink. That's just embarrassing to an evil unit...

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I can flat fail it at my home realm, but it's embarrassing as **** that he wears that **** out to events. I think I might burn it while he's in the process of moving out.


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The captains garb does pass, except his pant, which I would have booted him for.
Also, what the **** is with the pink guy? You DO have heralds? Why the **** is he on the field?
Why haven't you driven him crying from the event?
Is he retarded? if so, who9 is in charge of him and why didn't THEY dress him?
This * is exactly why the garb police exist. You guys should have got together and DEMANDED he be removed from the field or you want you money back for the event.
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Sadly, I'm responsible for the wad of pink bubblegum that is Pancakes. He was actually removed from the field at one point, thank god, until he went to someone and had them convince the head herald to let him back onto the field since somehow pink is a period color.


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yes..pink is a period color...but not THAT pink. And NOT in a pink pajama jogging suit.

It's like someone puked up pepto bismol with dog bile and called it cool.

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I don't let him wear it to our required garb practices because...well, **** him. Can't get him to leave it behind when we go to an event. And sadly, as much as I'd love to forbid him from wearing it r fighting in it, my authority as his unit leader only extends so far as he lets it, really. We can try to peer pressure him, but unless we can get a herald to stick by their message of "get the **** out", he'll find a way onto the field with that on.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:20 pm 
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Kick him out of your unit.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:21 pm 
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Pinkie there is in track pants and a t-shirt. That's not garb no matter what color it is.

Say it with me: Just because you didn't buy it in a store/you hand-made it DOESN'T MEAN IT'S GARB.


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Bring him out west with that **** and he wont get on our fields. That looks like something my Mom would wear to the gym. The shirt isn't even crotch length, so it's not legal garb regargless of it's color.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:31 pm 
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The guy barely fights from my understanding. The issue with garb standards is the level of seriousness put toward investing in your boffer hobby. Devoted members strive for good attire and half asses produce half assed garb.

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I could care less if it's half assed, but it does have to pass, which that **** does not.

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We have kicked one guy out of the Western Uruk Hai for having a pink shield and another for having a pink sword that was made up to look like a piece of watermelon.
Both were told that they could stay in the unit if they would just get rid of the covers on these objects. Both chose to keep the gay covers. We don't miss them a bit. I cant even remember their names, though Im sure both still fight.
If an Uruk showed up on the field(any field anywhere, mind you. not just a unit battle) dressed like that, I would imediately start screaming obscenities at them and would not stop until they either left the scene or burst into flames. We would definently kick him straight out of our unit.
KICK HIM OUT OF YOUR UNIT. If hes a freind of yours, just steal that **** and burn it.
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I don't let him wear it to our required garb practices because...well, **** him. Can't get him to leave it behind when we go to an event. And sadly, as much as I'd love to forbid him from wearing it r fighting in it, my authority as his unit leader only extends so far as he lets it, really. We can try to peer pressure him, but unless we can get a herald to stick by their message of "get the **** out", he'll find a way onto the field with that on.


What's up with the camo though? He's some * that thinks he's hot **** still, isn't he? * go to restaurants in that **** like attention-starved whores.

What do you mean you can't do anything... boot him. I'd rather have 2 quality members than a bunch of retards.

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I guess I should clarify; I'm his division leader, for our areas branch of the unit. I don't have the authority to boot the jerk *. that's up to my peeps in CO. And they like him too much to kick him for something like that. I do the best I can with what I have. What happened at Gates was a lack of authority, basically. I can't kick him off, my superiors Wont kick him off, a garb herald kicked him off finally, then the head herald allowed him back onto the field. I'm working to fix this though. And yes, I will be doing my best to locate and burn that monstrosity. Solve all of my problems right there.


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So you're a local figurehead "officer" put in place to make the leader look like he trusts his group and give little power trippers a hope for future authority in medieval tag; however, you have no actual say or authority. Cool. Autonomy or GTFO. Run your own unit instead of recruiting/training for someone else then be told how you're going to do your thing locally by people who have probably never once visited your local practice. Its a game bro, don't turn it into a job where you answer to "corporate."

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So the AoM is cool with this? **** homo pickskins.
I'm very surprised and greatly disapointed to hear that.
I can now understand why some of the dag crowd looks down on you guys.
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make a nice big bonfire an BURN it!! Dance around and be quite loud about it too! You'll feel better :rose:

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Peer pressure. Best way to commit others towards improvement when they are clearly in the wrong. When someone on the field has a problem with head shots, you see to it that it is mentioned. They stop fighting when they don't improve. If someone is thick as ****, you bring it to their attention and ridicule them until the behavior improves. So... When they look like hell...
When everyone is in garb, the rest of the practice feels better about being in garb. The ones that are soooo close to not being mundane and boring.
Make incentives for people to be in garb. Not getting booted from an event only works so many times a year. Hey, you can't use anything besides single sword and sword and board. Hey, you can't call light or garb. Hey, you can't do anything but spar till you have min garb.
When we look better, we draw crowds, we present a unified presentation of the sport, and we follow the BoW.
Good stuff...

But I wouldn't recommend kicking asses, taking names, stealing and burning, etc...
Every practice to those who don't have it we all make it our jobs to ask, hey, when are you going to get garb and join the big kids table?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:20 am 
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Again you show your lack of understanding, Durtard.
We aren't talking about how to get the general population to care about garb.
We are talking about stopping 1 specific individual, the * in the pink suit, to stop deliberatly **** g with people.
We already know how to make normal people who care to wear garb. This * does not care about any of that.
Are you so **** thick as to miss the fact that this pink sweats wearing **** is wearing that to **** with people. Do you think he has no ther acess to garb? His unit would gladly GIVE him some. Do you think this is an isloated incident? Its not, he wears that **** at every event.
What he is doing is saying to all of us"I got a set of garb that I KNOW makes everyone angry. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?"
the answer to that question is and always shoild be"remove you from our presence."
I can not think of a more reprehensible thing to do than wear clothes at an event for no purpose rhan to ruin other peoples vacation pictures. **** that guy, he should be banned.
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What he is doing is saying to all of us"I got a set of garb that I KNOW makes everyone angry. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?


so the same thing drunken bob does with weapons except people suck on his * for it... strange world


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It think this IS the same as Bob and his dumb **** weapons.
I would throw the barrel shield off the field imediatly. The sythe could stay if it passed weapon check, but it would be checked for striking on the haft, af it is tended to strike beyond people and be pulled into them from the back. This means it is intended to hit my shoulder/ribs with that haft, which inturn means it must pass for striking.
**** Bob and his clown weapons.
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I got a set of garb that I KNOW makes everyone angry. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?"
the answer to that question is and always shoild be"remove you from our presence."


Uh oh :(

On a side note, I would like to express my immense envy for those of you who can openly criticize garb (or lack of it) on your fields and at your events without being made out to be the monster that ruins everyone's day and makes them never want to come back.

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Use the 4 step system:

1. Introduce yourself and politely comment on their garb.
2. Come back later and ask why they're still wearing it.
3. Warn them of the consequences if they don't change their garb.
4. Throw them in the creek.


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