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Stop the Bots....

Postby Sir Cairbre » Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:00 am

Requires a form originating post:
http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=210055

This Mod would probably block about 85% of all spam messages!


stop spam words:
http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=354376

This Mod could be configured with the misspellings of all the *'s and Ceilis and odd * spellings out there... increasing our chances of eliminating spammers.


This one blocks a register if their mx record is incorrect... good by announomouse posting on a proxy.
http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=458856

This one makes user have to wait x days before they can post off site content... pictures or links:
http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=464628
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Postby Spike » Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:43 am

Are there any mods with the pictures of jumbled up letters and numbers when you try to start an account?

Or are there ways to overpass those steps?
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Postby Sir Cairbre » Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:59 am

We currently have the jumbled letters.

Super smart bots can be trained to read them still, so you have to litteraly invent a new permutation, additionaly Botters can manualy log their bot in once and then let it go to work.
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Postby Black Cat » Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:03 am

Whoever is behind this bot invasion needs a swift roundhouse kick to the face. Seriously.
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Postby Dragon of Fire » Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:24 am

it seems that currently someone at "christmas orgasms" is the problem. this is the lagrest bot invasion ive seen by far, and its all from the same source. the other problem with that is the fact that this site sent like 20 or 30 bots out, meaning we cant just ban one and delete its posts.
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Postby savetuba » Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:27 am

"christmas orgasms"

Is a trojan site. download it and good bye personal info.
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Postby Sir Cairbre » Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:31 am

Actualy I have deleted about 15 bots. And Moderators are busy deleting their posts as well. Blocking the Bot's E-mail domains and some of the IP addresses they are coming at us from is starting to work. I would imagine that the bulk of the invasion has ended. We might see some more spikes of activity, but as we see them we will stop those as well.
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Postby Brooder » Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:57 am

I am expecting this thread to be spammed.
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Postby Black Cat » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:28 pm

The bots are still getting through. I wonder if they are being manually registered onto the site.
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Postby The Akbar » Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:09 pm

Just disable manual registrations and examine each registrant individually. It's more work, but it's the only way to be sure.
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Postby GvK » Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:52 am

but it's the only way to be sure.
I thought the only way to be sure was to nuke the site from orbit...? ;)
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Postby Syrik » Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:49 pm

It should be obvious but Terjo2 is a bad one.
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Postby Seiichiro » Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:48 pm

I had trouble with a guestbook a couple years ago like this. Here's what I did... watched trends in spam posts and created a list (array) of keywords and phrases that signaled bots. Created a condition in the source in the post functions where it checked against the array. If a flag came up, the poster's account, IP address and date/time were logged into a separate database and the post was not added. After gaining a few entries into the "spam" database, I also filtered against IP addresses (DHCP still often gives out the same IP address).

Also add checking against users. If there are a bunch of spam posts (especially if they're in a row), flag the user and disable the account. Also increase the required delay between posts.

Sure it's digging through the source and manipulating the database directly, but sometimes you just gotta do that.

In this recent surge, look for posts that are just links with irregular URL's that don't go anywhere. Is there a way to check the http status of a link in php? If the return code is anything other than 200 and all the post is is a link, flag it.

... wish I could read MAC addresses with PHP. Anyone?
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Postby GvK » Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:23 am

Holy cow! How many of the 4500 registered users are bot-accounts? Looking at a snapshot of the memberlist, it could be hundreds...
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Postby To'Gur » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:31 am

we could just spam the emails that are spamming us..
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Postby savetuba » Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:42 am

xAlUcArDx wrote:we could just spam the emails that are spamming us..


doesn't matter. They make an E-mail account that is meant to be spammed with the different 'welcome to forum X' E-mails. Most bot posts are deleted after the first few hours. And those E-mail boxes are never checked by a real person like you or me that uses an E-mail for personal things.
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Postby savetuba » Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:21 pm

and the most resent 2 bot attack that ressed old posts and made new ones while 2 MODs where online.
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Postby Peregrine » Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:33 pm

some mods only have acces to their own private forum.
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Postby savetuba » Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:42 pm

ah right...forgot about that. :P
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Postby ICARUS » Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:44 pm

Bruder wrote:
I am expecting this thread to be spammed

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Postby Spork » Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:57 pm

Iyon wrote:Carmen Electra Giving A Head And Taking A Load!
http://Carmen-Electra-Giving-A-Head-And ... ie=1079054


I can't believe they add so much to the conversation. We should keep these things around.

Nah, burn them all. >:( >:(
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Postby Syrik » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:06 am

Why can't we do anything to them for a breach of contract or edit the begining contract so the bots can breach it in every way conceiveable. I realize legal action is a little excesive and probably wouldn't work anyway, however it might work as a threat.

I don't know how feasible it is to do this but Another idea I had was to have exisisting members have to vouch for new members (like how gmail was). We could have a fourm just for people not a member of the fourm and they could ask if someone could vouch for them there, and if they start talking about porn then they are probably a bot.
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Postby ICARUS » Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:00 am

that would make it rather hard for people who don't know anyone in the sport yet. The mods are few in number but they don't even get paid (I don't think) so everyone leave them alone on this. They are not just letting the bots post stuff for days only hours which when you consider the mods sleep, work, school, and some may have kids its a freakin miracle they can even do moding for us. if they want I wouldn't mind helping out with the bot killing though :) . If there is any thing I or the members of the board can do let us know and I think we would all like to help.
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Postby Syrik » Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:57 am

I realized that the mods do have lives, thats what the second option was for is so that if someone is interseted in the sport they could only post in the in say the new mwmbers area that way the mods only had to check one fourm, and the vouching for people so the mods didn't have to go through users seaqrching for bots.

I think it would work however I'm not sure about the programming side of it.
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Postby telanar » Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:01 am

If the mods need help, just ask. I'm on here from about 8:30-17:00 M-F, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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Postby Elebrim » Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:19 am

This last batch was especially bad; they hit EVERY public forum at least 3 times each. Even this sanctum of technological sanity was not left unscathed...

Let's just shoot them and get it over with.
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