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Calarn the Black wrote:We have a "red rock", and rules for it. Basically, it's the only thing you're allowed to be holding at the time you throw it. It's incredibly ineffective, but fun.
Koom Di' Puts wrote:Only thing I would look into is that a dodge ball bounces, foam doesn't.
Koom Di' Puts wrote:Only thing I would look into is that a dodge ball bounces, foam doesn't.
Kenneth wrote:I I can just imagine the biggest exploit, which is a whole army fielding multiple red rocks per person.
I see no basis in the game for arrows to be able to go through a "rock wall".
Especially consider this, the red rocks I've seen deform quite a bit. Thus, if you land anywhere near the top half of their torso, the rock will deform over the shield and hit the torso(shoulders). That's auto kill right there.
just chuck them over the tower and you're bound to hit 5 people, likely all kills (Head and shoulders!)
Syrus wrote:
I have a hard time seeing anyone wielding multiple red rocks, unless they're hanging out by a boulder pile. I think the effectiveness of this would be lessened by your hampered mobility due to the limited movement rules and two-hand use rule.
Rocks are weapons. Weapons cannot stop arrows. An archer hiding behind a red rock wall would effectively be out in the open.
Your point of deformation is a valid point. Can anyone think of a way to check red rocks for "flex?"
A weapon can only hit one target at a time says the BOW. Hitting five people at once (or even multiple target areas on a person) can't be done. The Red Rock would not be exempt in any way.
Kegg wrote:Now picture dozens of these flying at you as you approach the line. As you get closer to the line, Numenoreans in the second rank will be toss whole sacks of rocks into the air at the same time (not aimed). As they rained down they would savage your line. What would the defense be besides a helmet. It would fundamentally change the way the game was played.
savetuba wrote:Someone fears change.
If you are worried about baseball sized rocks why not increase the minimum size? And you can block a regular rock with anything you want.
debuenzo wrote:i do think that red rocks might be cheesed, (heavy armored shield wall waits w/ rock chuckers behind, throwing)
but that would easily be stopped by a "max. # of red rocks on the field" rule say.....5 or so
i was also thinking that maybe a red rock could be "crushed" by 3 or 4 red swings
now i definately do not think regular rocks are a detriment to the sport nor should ever be completely outlawed
for one it allows for more weapon variety and characterization
if a "hobbit" wants to fight w/ a bag of rocks and a dagger, let him
also, i dont think a rock is any more dangerous than a javelin
javelin can be used both in melee combat as well as a missle weapon
javelin can score a hit on more targets than a rock
javelin are larger and can be used to block strikes more effectively (when wielded as an upright shield)
the advantages a rock has over a javelin are that the rock's min. throwing distance is much smaller and that they are less cumbersome
allow red rocks: only if they are monitored and controlled by rules that would prevent a serious (and negative) change of the game
Kegg wrote:i was also thinking that maybe a red rock could be "crushed" by 3 or 4 red swings
Do you mean while it is on the ground? I believe it would be impossible to get 4 solid hits on a "red" rock in someones hands without some serious finger breakage.
Now picture 100 heavily armoured guys with 25+ turbo-rocks each. 2500 missile weapons, which would completely change the nature of the battle.
debuenzo wrote:Kegg wrote:Now picture 100 heavily armoured guys with 25+ turbo-rocks each. 2500 missile weapons, which would completely change the nature of the battle.
i don't think this will ever happen. Why hasnt it happened already?
A nerf mini-basketball or football w/ the ends snipped off covered w/ a sock would make a fine rock that you could throw far and accurately, but few have it....probably because people have more fun swinging a sword than tossing a rock
debuenzo wrote:Now picture 100 heavily armoured guys with 25+ turbo-rocks each. 2500 missile weapons, which would completely change the nature of the battle.
i don't think this will ever happen. Why hasnt it happened already?
A nerf mini-basketball or football w/ the ends snipped off covered w/ a sock would make a fine rock that you could throw far and accurately, but few have it....probably because people have more fun swinging a sword than tossing a rock
Winfang wrote:debuenzo wrote:Kegg wrote:Now picture 100 heavily armoured guys with 25+ turbo-rocks each. 2500 missile weapons, which would completely change the nature of the battle.
i don't think this will ever happen. Why hasnt it happened already?
A nerf mini-basketball or football w/ the ends snipped off covered w/ a sock would make a fine rock that you could throw far and accurately, but few have it....probably because people have more fun swinging a sword than tossing a rock
Watch a Dagorhir battle sometime. The concept that Kegg speaks of is an actual tactic used by many there.
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