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 Post subject: Definition of tacoing
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:31 am 
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There have been a few threads the past couple of days where people were looking for some quantifiable way of determining whether a shield tacos too much.

It's not quantifiable but I use putting the edge of the shield on the ground and then applying medium pressure to the top of the shield. If the shield tacos so much that the two ends almost meet or could crush the arm inside then the shield would fail.

Your thoughts?
Do we need to add this to the rules?

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i would say that a specific, written rule would not be necessary
where would you draw the line?
a 90 degree bend seems reasonable?
and if so, how close and strict would it be applied?
is an 85 degree bend safe, whereas 95 is not?

i would leave it up to the weapons checker's discretion

if it is seems unsafe, then it fails
iif not, go from there

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I think at least something should be put in the rules, since it is a significant rule that's applied at every weapons check, but isn't actually even mentioned anywhere in the BoW. It'd be a lot friendlier to newer fighters if there was at least a hint of what to expect written down ahead of time.

Perhaps something vague along the lines of "Shields must not bend excessively under moderate pressure." At least that'd be enough that people would know there was a rule out there and could ask about how to test for it.

I don't think using a degree measurement would be workable. How would you accomodate saucer sleds, for one thing? Also, a large punch tower might still be safe for the user (though cheesy) if you could easily bend it so the top and bottom were parallel, since that still wouldn't be too near the grip. On my little coreless kickboards-turned-bucklers, though, I wouldn't even want them folding half that much.

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Chicken wrote:
"Shields must not bend excessively under moderate pressure."


okay, i do like that wording... simple and leaves it up to weapons checker's discretion

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