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Simultaneous Florentine Strikes

Postby Oisin » Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:54 pm

So this came up at practice today--player A hits player B in the back simultaneously with two blue swords. Player B is wearing torso armor that was undamaged, and player A calls two or something similar when he hits. Player B acknowledges that both swords hit, but asserts that because they were swung simultaneously, it only counts as one strike.

Does this count as both hits, aka armor and death? I see no clause in the Book of War that would suggest otherwise, and it's not a local house rule, at least none I've ever heard of (and I've fought in the same realm almost two years now).
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Postby Cyric » Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:47 pm

Usually the two hits have to be staggered so that the person can register them as two separate hits. Had the person not seen the two hits, it would have been ok to call armor. but if you see that it's two swords and you know that both hit, you should be dead.
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Postby Enoch » Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:20 pm

Player B should be dead, however, player A should have probably yelled "two or something similar" twice (one for each sword).
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Postby Sir Par » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:42 pm

stating "two blues" is good enough for me.
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Postby Satanaka » Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:28 pm

I was just reading this- I want to sorta re-ask- in that- up untill xxx time- I thought we had always said that two hits that hit the same area at one time- would only be counted as one impact.

Of course I did not "detailed" look throught the rules. BUT- I was almost sure that in the past we had done that due to the ability of armour to absorb impact- and not "to be destroyed"... Does that make sense?

Also- I remember at War Council- a few billions years ago- we had this as a debate. another thing that came up was the ability of someone weilding to actaul swords and being able to deliver deadly enough hits.

Now I know we have people that could do it- BUT for the most part- it would not be a common things.

So- Has the general rule changed? or Was it more of a common sense thing that was just never adopted?


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Postby Olos » Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:47 pm

I'm not sure, but I do know that out in Arnor, where I assume this happened, there is now (don't know if it was added before or after this incidence) a house rule stating that 2 strikes at the same time (even if at different target areas) do not count.

However, I am not sure about the rule on a national scale. I would assume that if both are of sufficient force, both would count.

Personally, I don't agree with the different target areas thing. And really, if they both hit hard enough, I'd personally take the death. So, with that, and the fact that I don't fluorentine at Arnor much, this doesn't affect my playing much :D
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Postby savetuba » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:20 pm

Olos wrote:a house rule stating that 2 strikes at the same time (even if at different target areas) do not count.


Makes a person wonder what happens when two people hit one person at the same time. Drr those hits didn't count. :P

For the sake of ease, two hits to one area in rapid succession can be hard to differentiate and thus someone would have a hard time knowing if it was one or two hits. However, two hits to different areas should be acceptable.
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Postby debuenzo » Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:05 am

two strikes would result in two hits if they are sufficient


the person striking could say "blue, blue"

i dont see the reasoning behind denying one shot because of the time it landed
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Postby Davit » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:31 am

If someone does not know that 2 shots landed, aka they have been hit in almost the same spot at the same time, then why would they take 2 shots, regardless of what is said. Just because someone is yelling "GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN" over and over again does not mean that they have hit anything.

Therefore, while if someone hit me where I could see with two weapons at the same time, I would take appropriate hits, however if all my body recognizes is one hit (at a spot that I cannot see) that is all that I can take.

So try when you can to put a bit of space between the time of your shots because someone will feel 2 distinct hits, and surprise, take them.
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Postby Angmarth » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:36 am

We ruled on the simultaneous strikes for playability reasons. That said, I just clarified the original ruling for better wording.
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