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Kyrian wrote:1.4.8.3. The maximum poundage allowed on a crossbow is 50 lbs at 14 inches draw.
I don't think it gets much simpler than that.
There are no staffs in Belegarth. Because of how they are constructed, they are really Pugil Sticks.
Olos wrote:It'd be pretty easy to just have the checkers print out the sheet of paper and bring it in
Kyrian wrote:So, using Angmarth's calculations, the BoW might look something like this:
1.4.8.2. The maximum poundage allowed on a bow is 35 lbs pull at 28 inches of draw.
1.4.8.3. The maximum poundage allowed on a crossbow is 50 lbs at 14 inches draw.
I don't think it gets much simpler than that.
Davit wrote:Someone recently brought this situation up, and yes I know it's unlikely, but so is a knock to the eye, a pommel to the eye and some other situations we talk about in concern of safety.
Someone ditches their x-bow to grapple someone. Random person A is running from their opponents, doesn't notice a drawn x-bow sitting on the ground, steps on the x-bow which goes off. Random person A's ankle breaks because of our newer higher poundage rules.
Granted I'm not a bone Dr. nor do I have the desire to sit down and calculate how many pounds of pressure would be exerted by a 50 pound at 14 inch x-bow, how many pounds of pressure it would take to break an ankle, the different ways it could rebound off the ground or someone's foot, etc.. If you want too, by all means go ahead, but I think it could be a valid safety concern.
Angmarth wrote:. Yes it will eliminate many crossbows because of draw length, but ease of weapons check is the important thing here.
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There are no staffs in Belegarth. Because of how they are constructed, they are really Pugil Sticks.
There are no staffs in Belegarth. Because of how they are constructed, they are really Pugil Sticks.
Rasheab wrote:Ahh, fair enough. I forgot about "those people." I was being all idealistic and naive there for a minute.
Spike wrote:This is the funniest thing I've ever read on these boards and the rest of you are bad at things generally, too.
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Arrakis wrote:BC, if you have a very, very small handbow with only a 24" spar, say, and you can only pull it maybe 20 inches, it still can only be a maximum of 35# of draw.
That would be the case here, where all stroke lengths would have a maximum weight of 50# and the maximum stroke would be 10 inches.
Oisin wrote:Also, for the record, I believe that Amtgard now allows 450 inch pounds for their xbows, and Dag allows 35 # * 12", or effectively 420 inch pounds.
Oisin wrote:How about this . . . means that the person with the crossbow has to do all the math ahead of time, the heralds just have to measure the power stroke and check the draw weight.
"1.4.8.3. A crossbow may not draw more than 500 inch pounds. This is calculated by multiplying the bow's draw weight (measured to the * position) by its power stroke, measured from the string's at rest position to its * position, rounded up to the next whole inch.
1.4.8.3.1. All crossbows must be marked in a permanent, obvious and legible fashion showing the following attributes:
Power Stroke, rounded up to the next full inch
Maximum allowable draw weight at that power stroke, rounded down to the next whole pound
Total maximum inch pounds generated by that power stroke and draw weight"
Or something very similar.
So, if you want to use a crossbow, you have to bring it to weapons check marked like this, in a medium like paint or sharpie, NOT just a piece of paper taped to the side:
12 inch power stroke (even if the actual power stroke was only 11.5")
41 lb maximum draw weight
492 inch pounds
And then when it gets to weapons check, if either of those two measurements are exceeded, it fails. If not (if, for example, the crossbow draws 38 lbs * 11.5 inches =437 inch pounds), it passes and there is no math involved, and no checking of charts. The necessary checking information is printed on the weapon itself, and if it isn't, you fail the bow until it is. There, simple, no math to be done at weapons check.
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Arrakis wrote:Fork, why 50 at 14?
50 at 10 sounded better.
1.4.8.3. A crossbow may not draw more than 500 inch pounds. Inch pounds is defined as the bow's draw weight multiplied by its power stroke, measured from the string's rest position to its fully drawn position.
1.4.8.3.1 Players presenting crossbows for checking should be prepared to provide a calculator and tape measure to ensure their equipment can be checked.
1.4.8.3.2 Crossbows must meet the "penny round" standards of 3.1.8.
1.3.2. All non-striking surfaces must be padded adequately to prevent personal injury from incidental contact.
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