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Oisin wrote:if I were checking weapons and somebody brought be a really well made linothorax laminated from enough layers to be as thick and hard as leather armour, I'd allow it with no qualms and a big high five.
Big Jimmy wrote:Oisin wrote:if I were checking weapons and somebody brought be a really well made linothorax laminated from enough layers to be as thick and hard as leather armour, I'd allow it with no qualms and a big high five.
Run your own event? We both know there's no way to float a "case by case" basis rule through war council, after that local realms can do whatever they want with their own events.
Oisin, on the other forum, wrote:x.x.x. Cloth armour
x.x.x.1. All fabric used must be composed of at least 90% natural fibers, specifically linen, hemp, silk, cotton or wool. Other natural fibers (such as bamboo fiber) may be allowed as well.
x.x.x.2. Armour may not be formed by adding studs to thinner fabrics as in studded leather armour, however this does not prohibit coats of plates or brigandines with cloth coverings as long as they meet the requirements for that type of armour.
x.x.x.2+x. I think I might be missing a few cleanup details here.
x.x.x.3. There are two types of cloth armour, armour made by laminating layers of cloth together with glue, wax or similar into a hard composite, and armour made by quilting layers of cloth together to produce a soft but thick and heavy fabric.
x.x.x.3.1. In order to pass as armour, laminated cloth armour must (at the sole discretion of the heralds checking armour) be at least as stiff, heavy and thick as water hardened 16 oz leather.
x.x.x.3.2. In order to pass as armour, quilted cloth armour must be composed of at least 15 layers of fabric that weighs no less than 8 oz per square yard.
x.x.x.2.3.1. Quilted cloth armour must have quilting lines sewn so that the armour is divided into stripes no more than 2 inches wide or squares no more than 4 inches wide. Different or creative quilting patterns may be approved at the discretion of the heralds checking armour, but they should have roughly that same area.
x.x.x.4. Cloth armour may never be used as a helmet, although it may be used as a gorget or similar protection for only the neck.
x.x.x.5. Extra padding may be added to otherwise legal armours, but armour may not be made just by sewing padding between fabric or leather that would not otherwise pass as armour.
Oisin wrote:But if I were checking, at a national event or otherwise, and someone brought a good linothorax that's at least as thick and stiff as good, hard leather armour, I'd pass it regardless of the fact that it's not actually in the rules. Technically legal? No. But I also don't think there's a problem with making an occasional exception in the (very, very rare) case where something new and different is cool and not some noob trying to pass off his pet video game weapon.
Big Jimmy wrote:Oisin wrote:But if I were checking, at a national event or otherwise, and someone brought a good linothorax that's at least as thick and stiff as good, hard leather armour, I'd pass it regardless of the fact that it's not actually in the rules. Technically legal? No. But I also don't think there's a problem with making an occasional exception in the (very, very rare) case where something new and different is cool and not some noob trying to pass off his pet video game weapon.
While I understand your good intentions, if you were to do this at the only technically national events ('Geddon and Chaos) I'd ask the event coordinators to remove you from check and ban you from checking for the rest of the event, for deliberately allowing people to break the rules at the only events that REQUIRE they be followed.
Oisin wrote:But if I were checking, at a national event or otherwise, and someone brought a good linothorax that's at least as thick and stiff as good, hard leather armour, I'd pass it regardless of the fact that it's not actually in the rules. Technically legal? YES.
1.4. Creative interpretation of the rules to gain any advantage is discouraged. These rules are intentionally sparse to allow for ease of use. The Marshal, according to these rules, and medieval foam combat precedent, settles all disputes.
Again, just as a note, as it stands, I would NOT be in favor of admitting this for general use in armour for anyone in Belegarth. I would be in favor of allowing this only in exceptional circumstances.
Davit wrote:Summary, Cloth armor CAN look cool and if done right COULD be a neat addition to Belegarth, but just like leather armor the majority of it would be crap and with it not being easily discernible from normal garb I don't see how it can be put into our current rule set.
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