Belegarth

As you can see from my name....I'm a Sith Lord
I don't see why I can't mix the best of both worlds

A "Sith Lord" or any other Star Wars character is definitely not period. In the time we pretend we're in, there's no such thing as laser blasters, our swords are not vibroblades, and lightsabers don't exist. About the closest thing we have to a Wookie bowcaster is a normal crossbow. Oh, wait. The rules don't allow those. We have bows and arrows that are about as deadly as a bowcaster, but those take a lot more skill to wield than any blaster.

You need to play as something other than "Dork Lard of the Sloth", because you're not really a "Sith Lord" in Belegarth. (or at all) You are really just some random commoner with questionable fighting skill that has decided to take up arms, take a walk on the dark side, and name himself some fancy, but meaningless title.

Since you probably like lightsaber forms, I suggest taking the path of the longsword. * sword, Claymore, Zweihander, Two-handed Scimitar/Sabre (Middle-Eastern or Oriental), the exotic Okatana/Odachi, or another medieval-era two-hander I forgot to mention. Take your pick.

But leave the Star Wars stuff at the door. The schwartz is not with you and sabers in our world do not have omnidirectional blades made out of refracted light. Deal with it.

i did have a lightsaber weapon...but i use sword and board. i don't even get too deep into the sith lord status, i just like the title. represents evil and darkness. as far as i'm concerned, my character is hiding in the shadows of a time he doesnt belong in.

and my skills arent that questionable....sure i've only been fighting for about eight months but i've attended many fights and had a lot of training and i believe i can hold my own with sword and board!

Darth wrote:May the Dark Side of the Force be with you...Always.

To answear your question...yes.

and judging by the fact that you even created this post it's obvious that you know it as well as anyone else on the board...

Don't be stupid, it's not going to get you anywhere.

is the problem really that the character is not period? or is there more to it?

Your "character" isn't any period.

well neither is an ork, elf, or uruk-hai...they're all fantasy beings, why can't I have one?

Darth wrote:well neither is an ork, elf, or uruk-hai...they're all fantasy beings, why can't I have one?

Because those beings are from a fantasy alternate-reality of the Middle-ages. The world they're in may be entirely different, but the theme of their world is pretty much the same. Since such characters are from a different version of the same time period, they often fit into ever-changing or newly created fantasy medieval settings seamlessly.

Your "Sith Lord" character properly translated into Belegarth is really nothing more than a dark vagabond with mysterious powers and some sword-fighting experience in a style not known to that world. You're not really a Sith, just some nobody with some dangerous magic tricks and an unusual way of handling a sword.

i don't understand what the insults are for? why am I a nobody?

Imagine you're watching a movie about King Arthur: An elf comes on screen and helps (or to be more true to the story, the magical lady of the lake) it stops being a historical period movie and becomes a FANTASY period movie. If a superhero or a sith lord comes in (declaring himself to be such) It is a foul mashing of the strange, even if you are using an OLD republic sith, because they still use high-tech gear and very strange magics. It's out of place, it's as out of place as a pokemon in an episode of X-Men, sure, they have SOMETHING in common, but it's nowhere near close enough. A dark warrior is one thing, be a black knight, a deadly highwayman, or find another period baddie to be, but a sith lord is mixing too much.

Tonaho wrote:Imagine you're watching a movie about King Arthur: An elf comes on screen and helps (or to be more true to the story, the magical lady of the lake) it stops being a historical period movie and becomes a FANTASY period movie. If a superhero or a sith lord comes in (declaring himself to be such) It is a foul mashing of the strange, even if you are using an OLD republic sith, because they still use high-tech gear and very strange magics. It's out of place, it's as out of place as a pokemon in an episode of X-Men, sure, they have SOMETHING in common, but it's nowhere near close enough. A dark warrior is one thing, be a black knight, a deadly highwayman, or find another period baddie to be, but a sith lord is mixing too much.

QFT

Meh, don't worry about the haters. I bet you'd be fine if you just don't call yourself a Sith. We get plenty of funny people doing a poor job of going green (or other colors), that someone doing a good job of looking like an evil-demon type thing would actually be refreshing.

Just don't do a bad job of it, and don't rub in the fact that it's more sci-fi than fantasy. The reason it rubs people the wrong way is that Star Wars (while it might have been a long time ago and far far away) has the wrong technology level cp to the rest of our sport.

You will maybe get laughed at and heckled, but only if it's very obvious that you are RPing starwars. Just be a demon/monster who uses a club and I think you're fine.

Magpie of Rhun wrote:You will maybe get laughed at and heckled, but only if it's very obvious that you are RPing starwars.

Unless you are wearing something like this:

The only reason I don't laugh hysterically at that is because it's one of those things that people applaud you for. People admire creativity, and if you do something that epic and make it as close to a Belegarth period as you can, then you COULD be one of the better ones out there.

And that's my worry. You could either pull this off and make it look epic, or you could fill it full of fail and be laughed at for the rest of your life. Good luck!

yes, i have been thinking of doing something exactly like that. i was thinking of having a chest piece/shoulder piece made out of leather and tooled to look like what darth vader wears. and yeah, I wanted a helm that looked like vaders as well.

Get it put together, try it on, if it looks like crap, don't wear it to an event. Try again, cause you don't want to look like crap. Lol

Try posting some pictures when you're done. That would be cool.

i dont think it would look like crap....i'm thinking about commissioning Derian for a task like that, though I don't know if he'd be up for it.

Maybe not crap...but it would look out of place thats for sure.

I'm all for individualism and unique garb/armor, but it just seems to me that your just asking to get ragged on both with that armor and with the persona. I mean common, if i saw Darth Vader walking around the field he would be my first target.

Now...you could go ancient Sith...that wouldn't be so far fetched. If memory serves, they used swords and were quite feudal. But Vader Sith...yea not so much. Take the Sith code and modify it to create a dark order of knights. I'm cool with that too...but a full fledged Palpatine style Sith is going to be taken about as seriously as the steriotypical half elf. No offence to elves, but lets face it. Orlando Bloom ruined it for all of you.

Now if your very tongue in cheek, over the top, and doing it for comedic value, ok yea, a sith works...but you seem to be taking it as seriously as you can in this game, and thats what seems off.

Half naked guy running around the field with a stormtrooper helmet and throwing javs...Hilarious.
Guy in full stormtrooper armor taking him self seriously...kinda retarded. See what i mean?

but even if i did go ancient sith, isnt that still non period? sith does stand for something, and its just a part of my persona. it doesnt change how i fight or what weapons I use, and it doesnt entitle me to forcechoke or forcelighting anyone (though I would love to be able to do that). it's all about thwarting authority, taking control, and passing on my abilities to someone younger and full of potential

You should just go with what you are talking about. See if it works on the field and you should gain a good rep as a sith, if you pull it off.

"it's all about thwarting authority, taking control, and passing on my abilities to someone younger and full of potential"

Then do that, but stop calling it Sith. Come up with something original, trust me, it will go over better than you trying to steal the coolness of the Sith Lords for yourself. Call yourself a Dark Wizard, Shadow Warrior, Dark OVerlord...anything but Sith. It's simply too far out of place to be taken seriously, which is what you seem to want. You want something that evokes the proper thought process...If you say "I am a Sith Lord" people will laugh because that conjures up images of blasters and lightsabers. If you say "i am a Lord of the Nazgul" that bring to mind images of LotR and swords and stuff. You might still get laughed at, but it least it wont be for being a Star Wars guy at a belegarth game.

As of late- seems that ANY 'characterization' past a tunic is target for some *. So- expect certain people to say something. If I was at a bondfire and someone walked up with a darth vader helmet on- I'd chuckle as well.

I have seen some people pull off some great characterization. Back in the day when Horde was new- at Ranarok 11 they did a great job as a unit and then a guy named 'Vida'- was awesome. Heck- I thought he WAS Russian. Their characterization was on and off the field and was fun.

It's a lot different today. We have some people that don't want to wear garb- and it shows in their garb- with the minimum allowed.

just reading the whole "sith lord" stuff does make me chuckle. Some other people will nail ya to the cross...


But- good luck with it.

Soo Ma Tai wrote: "i am a Lord of the Nazgul" that bring to mind images of LotR and swords and stuff.

Really? "Lord of the Nazghul" conjures up images, for me, of Dark Guard camp with a terribly drunken Klawz standing over some badly broken kid in a black robe and screaming "Now WHAT were you saying?"

That sounds like the Knight/Squire (or god forbid, the Ridir/Mac) system. Only it sounds like you're trying to be a *. Thwarting authority, seizing control. As long as that's just characterization, and not you actually being a * to event organizers, it's alright, but take your thwarting, controling Knight/Squire thing, pull out your label-matic and call it something else.

if someone REALLY cares that much about your character then you don't have to worry, they are a * and should be ignored.

technically it's not period but i beleive chavez likes this quote "**** you, i'm a time traveller." so don't sweat it.

hehehehehhehe..... can't argue with that.

Titan G wrote:if someone REALLY cares that much about your character then you don't have to worry, they are a * and should be ignored.

technically it's not period but i beleive chavez likes this quote "**** you, i'm a time traveller." so don't sweat it.

all that makes me think of is this:

fortaxreasons wrote:Mark: I think we threw historical accuracy out the window when you brought that Iron broadsword into a bronze age campaign setting!
Barry: You want to do this? I'm the ONLY one who brought sandals, you're wearing jeans and reboks!
Mark: I'm a demon summoner, maybe I summoned them, 'ja ever think of that!?

It was a half-assed excuse for being lazy or out of place then too.

perfect * example. remember not everyone is here to be a reneactor

The fact that you have to ask if there's anything wrong suggests that on some level, you already think something is wrong. The fact that Black Cat is giving you advice suggests on the highest level that something is very wrong.

Darth Cheeseheart wrote:As you can see from my name....I'm a Sith Lord
I don't see why I can't mix the best of both worlds

Yes there's somethig wrong with it. It's stupid, and we all talk about it and say it's stupid.

well i use to be really into character now im almost exclusively a stickjock, but i'll throw this in. zuwolf, the founder of a unit called bladestorm wanted to rock being a sith also and he spent a few years squiring to a southern knight down here. after his knighting he chose instead of being sir to be knighted as a sith lord. also, absolutely no kidding here his knights title and his name change made him darth cannabis. so if you wanna be sith thats cool but rock it like any other title. it's only cool if you MAKE it cool. other wise your like all the other roll play chodes, lots of talk and **** fighting.

Halbrust wrote:

Darth Cheeseheart wrote:As you can see from my name....I'm a Sith Lord
I don't see why I can't mix the best of both worlds

Yes there's somethig wrong with it. It's stupid, and we all talk about it and say it's stupid.

and why's that?

ok i was attempting to be nice but i your really gonna keep asking these kinds of questions then i am almost positive i have some koolaid for you around here somewhere.

Why's that?
Because you're portraying a Star Wars character in a medieval fighting game. And because you call yourself Darth Cheeseheart.

Believe me or not. Most people you ask in person will lie to you and say it's OK. But many people have voiced their dislike about it. I WILL NOT name names, and instead stand alone and say it's stupid.

This is honestly starting to sound like my ten year old sister asking anything about bel.

Tona's Little Sister wrote:What are you doing?
Building a sword
Why are you doing that?
Because then I can fight with it
Why do you fight with it?
Because I enjoy the activity
Why?

This can go on for days.

Cause it's effin stupid, it's not medieval fantasy no matter how you twist it. Just change it to something that isn't out of context.

so, i've tried to gather more than one thing here, but it seems to me that the only thing wrong is that the character is not period.

Yes it's not period...but more than that for me..even if it were, my biggest issue with it is that you can't possibly live up to the reputation. I would honestly have the same issue with someone running around calling themselves Zeus, Thor, Superman, or any other mythical character that is super human.

Whether your period or not, you can't ever be a Sith Lord and take yourself seriously at the same time. Changing your name to Darth Cheeseheart is a start, but your still giving off the impression that your really trying to RP a sith lord.

Unless you are really really really * good, and as an average player i have no chance against you at all, you really shouldn't be picking names that raise expectation. Call yourself a dark knight, thats fine. I have less issue with that simply because i can walk up and kick the * of a dark knight with my persona, and the same goes for most of the other persona's out there too.

My name, Kadis, is actually an on purpose misspelling of a Sith Lord (just because i liked how it sounds)...however, thats where the similarity stops. I don't RP, but i model my persona after a Celtic Warrior sort. And that persona is rather ordinary for the game we play. I can be beaten, and im very much human and ordinary. If i were to RP a Sith Lord....the expectation would be that im practically unbeatable. See the difference?

Now if you call yourself Darth Whatever, and i can walk up to you and beat you in two hits...ok im going to laugh. Not because the name is funny, but because you picked a persona that you can't back it up.

Now i don't know your skill level, and i don't pretend to, but unless you win 99% of all your fights, and can look impressive while doing it...i wouldn't pick a Sith Lord persona. No one is questioning the coolness of a Sith persona, but the question is, can you back it up.

Now like i said earlier, if your trying to be funny, and your RPing a mentally retarded Sith Lord who drools and falls down a lot, ok yea, im going to laugh my * off and its all good, but by taking yourself seriously, your just asking for people to rip on you, and frankly your making yourself a target for everyone who wants to see people who take themselves way too seriously taken down a peg.

I'm not ragging on you dude, but you did ask. So yea, not a period issue, its an expectation issue.

Yes, it is not period, and it is not from the medieval fantasy genre. It is a science fiction character and has no real place in Belegarth. Also the name is really bad, comical to be exact. You sound like you are trying to take this seriously, but no one will ever take you seriously with a name like cheeseheart, ever. No trying to be a *, just spelling it out as I see it.

if your looking for something within the rules that is the problem then the period thing is all your going to get, because by and large personas are completely up to the person playing. however its quite common for people to be laughed and beat out of the sport for cheesedickery such as this. not sure where your from but i'm sure you being a sith lord is going to make someone swing for the fences. also, please die in a fire, thanks.

I am having doubts that this is a real persona question. You might as well be asking to play a Mog or Dark Helmet.

I think Gravish sums this up best

Titan G wrote: also, please die in a fire, thanks.

Darth Cheeseheart wrote:is the problem really that the character is not period? or is there more to it?

Technically, the period is pregunpowder, so about 1600 give or take a few.

And Star Wars did happen a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away. So accounting for relativity you're on the up and up.

Really, the period being pre-gunpowder, star wars doth not count. It's pre OUR gunpowder, but in the star wars universe, gunpowder was a **** time ago. they're up to supercomputers and lazerswords and ****.

this is still oing?

I thought it was a Bot?

Simply put, Darth Whatever, you are in the wrong game. Get it? This isn't a larp about the Sith or Star Wars or lasers or anything else you seem to want to do. This is a (pardon the caps) TOLKEIN/MEDIEVAL inspired game.

Every so often we get someone here who just wants to stir the pot because they are bored, have low self-esteem, need a friend or are simply mean. Since I don't know you, I have no idea what your malfunction is. You are just trying to force us to accept your fantasy instead of becoming a part of ours and you get defensive when we tell you how you are in the wrong place. You were the one who asked, which is admitting that there is something very wrong with your "character" in our genre.

I have no problem with you being different, unique and/or a rebel. I just mind you shoving it down our throats. Go be accepted somewhere that will appreciate your specific type of nerd. I'll even get you started.

Go HERE!!!

That is all.

meh...
I can personally forgive the whole notion of Fantasy being dry humped by SciFi, partially because I kinda like the instances in Fiction where they do overlap. The one I'm thinking of is the Warhammer 40K Universe, where the galaxy at hand it so unimaginably vast, and the first seeds of humanity were sprinkled so long ago, that space faring races often come across human civilizations that have regressed to (or alien races that has just reached) a castle dominated, pre-blackpowder medieval setting.
So in a game where shape shifting vampire cats and legendary warriors named Poo roam and freely fight, is it really that much of a stretch to say a Sith valet (or what have you, I'm no Star Wars PhD) misjudged a wormhole jump and happened to crash land on a planet dominated by LOTR beings?
(Like in Space Ace 5 where you can die by crash landing in the castle from another Sierra game, Conquest of the Longbow)
As for myself, I don't quite agree with it, but the point could be made~
I can also see something like this opening a rather nasty floodgate. Will there be a unit of Redshirts with hand crossbow "phasers"? Or an army of lost, crash landed Cyclons? Space Marines yelling "Game Over Man!" et al

Most of the people you just described, however, don't make it an issue by waving it around and creating a thread like this. They usually do what they do without making a fuss because they know that we will be somewhat tolerant if they just do their own thing quietly and with as much "medieval" flair as possible.

Sieglatan wrote:meh...
I can personally forgive the whole notion of Fantasy being dry humped by SciFi, partially because I kinda like the instances in Fiction where they do overlap. The one I'm thinking of is the Warhammer 40K Universe, where the galaxy at hand it so unimaginably vast, and the first seeds of humanity were sprinkled so long ago, that space faring races often come across human civilizations that have regressed to (or alien races that has just reached) a castle dominated, pre-blackpowder medieval setting.
So in a game where shape shifting vampire cats and legendary warriors named Poo roam and freely fight, is it really that much of a stretch to say a Sith valet (or what have you, I'm no Star Wars PhD) misjudged a wormhole jump and happened to crash land on a planet dominated by LOTR beings?
(Like in Space Ace 5 where you can die by crash landing in the castle from another Sierra game, Conquest of the Longbow)
As for myself, I don't quite agree with it, but the point could be made~
I can also see something like this opening a rather nasty floodgate. Will there be a unit of Redshirts with hand crossbow "phasers"? Or an army of lost, crash landed Cyclons? Space Marines yelling "Game Over Man!" et al

I still think its more an issue of expectation, and frankly it seems like he just went..."hmm, i want to be the coolest character of pwnage awesomeness with leet sauce sprinkled on top! What could i be....Ohhh I know, Sith Lord! YES!" ...rather than giving any thought to what other people would think of that, to say nothing of whether it fits or not.

Make a dark lord. No problem with that at all, but for the love of God don't make him a Sith...because now its like im obligated to kick his *.

For those of you who like analogies, this would be like me legally changing my name to Michael Jackson, even though i can't sing, dance, or perform. It's an expectation issue. If i could sing to the rafters and dance like a *, not many people would have an issue with it because im doing justice to the name.

But in this case, i don't care how good you are, i guarantee you aren't going to do justice to the title of sith lord unless you win 99% of the time and can strangle people with your mind.

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