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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:44 am 
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I know that this may be a little difficult, but describe some of your favorite shots/combos you use when fighting.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:49 am 
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Easy..

When going florentine (I am a lefty) take my left weapon feign a shoulder shot and with my right hand go after a leg. The trick is look at the shoulder and sell the shoulder shot. Gets them most the time I find.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:40 am 
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I often act like I am going to swing in one direction with my sword, then go another. There is many variations of this tactic. I would do what Georghiu Leonte suggested as well, but my secondary sword is and has been out of commission. I am mostly an archer who uses a backup blue sword though, so I don't do much florentine anyway.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:46 am 
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Favorite Fighting Styles: sword and shield
vs round shield: fake high, take the leg

vs punch shield: wrap shot to the butt (also can fake high first)

counterswing to take the arm (just trace the side of their shield)

....those are a few that i like

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Hmm,

I tend to be a bit dramatic so...

I tend to hold any weapon, provided it's one handed, pointed at their chest while holding it overhand.

Then I stab/snap my wrist to swing there and pull in an arc to nab the leg. Wonder method the first and second time, wonderful for setting them up for a feint the third.

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I love aiming at someone dead ahead of me with my jav, then thowing at someone of to an angle that wasn't ready for it :devil:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:40 pm 
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vek wrote:
I love aiming at someone dead ahead of me with my jav, then thowing at someone of to an angle that wasn't ready for it :devil:

That has to be one of my favs too.

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Or have a rock tucked into the fold of your shield cover on the back side. They can't see it so you just reach behind with your sword hand (sword still in hand) and then take the sword in your shield hand and hole the rock with your sword hand. Fake like you're gonna swing the sword low so they lower their shield and then just flick the rock at their head. I don't have rocks so I don't often do this, but it works almost every time for this one guy in our realm.


You can also work wonders just hitting the back of your shield. Like bring you knee up and act like your gonna swing high while simultaneously hitting the wood of your shield on your knee. They almost always fall for this and then you swing low and take out their leg and they're like, "*, how'd you do that?" It's really quite funny if you pull it off right.

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for my boy nutz.

assuming both people are righties.

reverse wrap(short) to shieldside shoulder(opposite of scorpion shot) - reverse wrap(short) to armpit or collor bone - short wrap to kidneys.

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rising snap to shieldside shoulder - follow outer shield edge to leg - rising chop shot (front of blade) to armpit.

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This one's a real * move, but works for me. ;)

Swing weapon in a counterclock-wise circle above your head, horizontal with the ground at their face level. Usually people will pull back their head, and if their really dumb, raise their shield up, leaving their left leg open for a quick drop.

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1)Fake cross over to wrap...
2)Arm snipe(pretty well a cross over except straight at sword arm)
3)Leg swip....Punch up high and then follow down the sheild edge into the leg
4)Under sheild to sword arm....(fake high sheild arm first, then swing upnder and tage there open side.)
5)Straight shoulder pops

and of course the Head to any other part of the body that is open :P

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Kaegan wrote:
reverse wrap(short) to shieldside shoulder(opposite of scorpion shot) - reverse wrap(short) to armpit or collor bone - short wrap to kidneys.

or

rising snap to shieldside shoulder - follow outer shield edge to leg - rising chop shot (front of blade) to armpit.


So... How do ya' do these?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:27 am 
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Both shots are intended to be used while VERY close to your opponant (it's how a lot of us highland guys like to fight)

Assuming both combatants are right handed

for the first shot....

your going to strike their shieldarm shoulder with an overhead wrap shot. except that instead of rotaing your thumb towards you (like for a normal wrap shot) you are rotating your thumb away from you. If you throw the shot correctly your elbow will be towards the center of your chest, with the pommel of your sword about 2 inches from your face. Note that the higher your hand is - the better angle you will have.

Then for the second shot in the combo...

You will strike their armpit/chest by rotating your arm the opposite direction, moving your elbow out, * your wrist back and making contact with the back edge of the sword. If done correctly your elbow will be slightly behind you, and your hand should be above your right shoulder. (this is a cross-shot done the right way :) )

third shot in the combo is a traditional wrap shot


The second combo is a little harder to explain in words. get cedric to show you at an event, it's his baby.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:34 am 
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i would definatly have to show you, way to much goes into that shot then to be fully appreciated in an onoine discusion, but the shot rarely fails if thrown correctly.

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I find while using a spear most people don't block their gut area enough. So I fake a thrust at thier chest (spear head comes at the chest but you change direction at the last minute) Then I drop the head into thier gut. If they are fast enough they will block the shot by pushing down and the thurst will ussually land in their gut, crotch, or upper leg.

After a few shots like that they guard thier crotch more than thier chest so you reverse the shot (aim for gut and hit chest)

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:00 am 
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When fighting sword and board, I like to raise my sword above my head and twirl it around a little, and then go down for a leg shot. Works really well if they're not expecting it.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:21 pm 
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Sword and board against a round:

Swing to opponent's left leg (assuming he or she is a righty), immediate follow up with a slot shot (goes between the gap of the shield and body) to the chest or cross shot to the armpit or upper arm

Florentine against a round:
-RH cross to the right arm
-LH strike to right leg
-Bring RH back to hit left leg

-RH to left leg
-LH to right leg
-RH cross to right arm

-RH to left leg
-LH to right leg
-Step in and RH wrap shot to arm or back

Opponent attacks my left shoulder
-Block with LH sword
-Counterswing at opponent's forearm or bicep

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Here you go, in the spirit of sharing:

-rest your sword on the shoulder of your swordarm

-turn your opposite shoulder toward your opponent

-swing your sword at your opponent as if your head wasn't there, rolling your head out of the way (foreward)and throwing it straight at your opponent

-a underpronounced pump-fake with your sword arm first will help the surprise factor of this maneuver

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I do recommend everybody doing sword and board. Everybody learns the exact same thing at the exact same time, and can practice against each other while the instructor is giving individual tips. That makes for a more effective "class" than you trying to tell the florentine guy how to fight a shield user while the rest of the class falls asleep.

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