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Mercer wrote:So, you're saying I should apologise for making a comment about the weapons being light, when most of the weapons in the video are ultralights?
Winfang wrote:That is excellent video. Alot of these shots can and do work in Belegarth, regardless of weight. Many of the spins ADD so much power to a shot. It's a shame that we're so strict on stabbing weapons that many of us can not try out some of these attacks.
Actually percentage wise there are not a whole lot of people who have added these shots or type of fighting into thier style. It is common to see amongst certain groups, but I wouldn't say spins are a part of the style of more than maybe 10% of the population.Well, realizing that a lot of the Amt guys who do these moves regularly makes me want to come to EQ even more. So I'll add another tally mark to the EQ side of my EQ/Okfest chart.
I use probably a 16 oz weapon, this is a guess, as I have not actually weighed my weapon cause it is unnecessary out here. But I actually don't counterbalance it at all. In fact I put as much of the weight as I can in the very tip of the weapon. For the 512 and the other spins for that matter, it really helps the power and the overextended wrap to have a tip heavy weapon. If you swing it right you can combo just as well as a counterweighted weapon, and I seem to be able to block better with my weight in the tip.Winfang is definitely right, though--those moves DO work in a Belegarth context, even with edged swords rather than beatsticks. I use a sword most of the time, and my favorite sword ... weighs at least 18 ounces AND moves almost as fast as an Amtgard 6oz TurboClub, due to superior counterweighting. But even with heavier, less well-balanced swords, most of those moves are doable, though sometimes you need to put a little extra effort in to generate force sufficient for people to take your hits.
I am really interested in this. I dont know how much force you are allowed to put into a shield kick, but this sounds so fun, I cant wait to get to EQ to see it in action.As far as shield kicks go, Attila and Soth (at Rag) demonstrated, when I was sparring with them and watching them spar each other, that you can in fact combine shield kicks with spin moves, to devastating effect if your opponent isn't expecting it.
I know this was directed toward flails, but I use the same theory with sword combat. Because my weapon is tip heavy I use a lot of circular motion rather than pop/fishing in my swings and combos.I prefer a more dynamic style that involves a lot of circular movement and redirection, which has worked pretty well for me
I have only been playing for 10 years, and I wouldn't consider myself a "badass". I just have a different style that people aren't used to that is built on mobility, and spins have a lot in that arena, so I use them decently often, so I am really practiced with them and know when to throw them. That said, I can't wait to get to EQ to see how I do, and see a new perspective on fighting that involves a lot more contact.If I get to Equinox, I would love to spend some time sparring with veterans, which I rarely get to do (being in Philly, and being one of the veterans here with my *5 years* of experience) and to see how I can improve my fighting techniques with advice from people who've been doing this kind of fighting longer.
I am getting an ounce scale today and Ill measure my weapon up. But I suspect it is 12 to 16 ounces. I know it is 40 inches long, with a 12 inch grip I think (not including the pommel), and most of the weight is in the tip, for power and speed once it gets spun up into circular motion, it also has amazing wrap shot power. There are a lot of ways to swing weapons, I do not go for chops like many heavy weapon fighters. I use my elbow and upper arm only to start the swing and add the speed/power, then I just let the momentum take over and use my forearm and wrist to do the rest, relaxing my elbow and upper arm in as much as to only use them to help direct movement and control distance.Interesting point about tip-heavy swords; ....snip..... but I would be interested to see you do it with a sword. Most of the people I know who use heavy weapons just bash with them; using the momentum to gain speed instead of power would, I imagine, be more interesting to watch.
Nightfall wrote:Punch vs Strap shields
Most texas is strap fighters, we dont see many flails, though I am not sure what part flails have to play other than they are maybe easier to deceive and block against with a punch.
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