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Physic wrote:Not allowing people in plate to grapple or be grappled. Not allow shield bashing. Using these rules along with the penny rounding rule and there should be no significant injuries created by allowing them.
Physic wrote:Making specific rules for people in plate is a better way to go. Having rules for safety would work to make this feasible. A few basic rules could cover most of the major problems with safety. Not allowing people in plate to grapple or be grappled.
Physic wrote:I would rather see the bar grill of an SCA helm then a hockey or lacrosse helmet. I see no problem with people that like to wear these for safety sakes but they look worse then SCA helms, protect less, and they certainly do not hold any historical accuracy.
Oisin wrote:AFAIK, full metal helms aren't a safety issue.
But overall, allowing SCAdian armor is just a really bad idea . . . the cops for the safety reasons I pointed out and the playability ones that Olos pointed out, and the helmets just become a playability nightmare as well.
Forkbeard wrote:Jointed metal elbows and kneew WILL cut people fingers when they graple. To sugest that we only allow people who wear plate to grapple is one of the stupidest things I've heard this summer.
\The reason the Helms aren't allowed is the danger of the un-intentional head but(don't tell me you've never seen people hit heads during a bridge battle, and the grills. The grills are UGLY, not at all period, dangerous in there own way, and do not conform to out gap requirements to count as armor.
Never gonna happen.
FB
SirMADOG wrote: Unfortunately people who have problems with metal elbo's and helms have never fought against one and someone a long time ago put a mental picture of arteries gushing blood and some lunatic head butting everyone.
-Madog
Physic wrote:.
Just in my small realm alone we have had a cuncussion, dislocated jaw, broken nose, bruised eyeball, and countless bloody noses and bruised faces. These were all within a years time.
Forkbeard wrote:I fight with everyone, hard.
I stand by my statement that graple + metal elbows and knees and helms will cause injuries.
SCA does not allow grapling for a reason.
FB
Physic wrote:I guess everyone is doing something wrong because these are all pretty common injuries that I see at every event and practice that I attend. We can all agree that if you have 2 people fighting that at some point someone is going to get hit in the head. It is the nature of the game.
None of these were caused by grappling because grappling sucks. Battlefield grappling is always a strategically bad idea. It only comes into play with people that are looking to just grapple or as a last resort. That is why we do not see it very often.
It hurts every time I get hit in the head. Does that mean we should all be wearing helms?
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