Moderators: Kyrian, Belegarth: Forum Moderators
Arrakis wrote:Non-hardened leather is NOT armor.
Hardened leather was MAD uncommon as armor in period when compared to padded armors, maille, and splinted/plated armors (like lamellar or scale or CoP or whatever, not articulated plate).
Kade2187 wrote:And there is no question that the stuff we use for bel isn't armor. No question at all. It might be great against someone wielding a swiss army knife, but thats about it.
Kade2187 wrote:Arrakis wrote:Non-hardened leather is NOT armor.
Hardened leather was MAD uncommon as armor in period when compared to padded armors, maille, and splinted/plated armors (like lamellar or scale or CoP or whatever, not articulated plate).
Oh no question. It was rather rare in Europe. Probably used to supplement a footsoldier's limited plate, scale, or chain if anything. If you had the money and time to buy a hardened leather piece, you probably had the money to put thin metal plates over it, band it, or do any number of other things with it that would make it stop being just a leather armor piece.
It was more common in the Middle East and Orient though to have various types of leather as armor than it was in Europe.
And there is no question that the stuff we use for bel isn't armor. No question at all. It might be great against someone wielding a swiss army knife, but thats about it. I am under no illusion that it was probably never used for helms, and shoulder pieces. I'm not talking about people running around in full leather suits of armor, i was referring more to the general uses for which a hardened leather armor would be really good. For instance, hardened leather on the forearm and shin would be really handy if you didn't have access to plate, banded, or scale.
My only point is to say that it was probably more prevalent than is commonly thought.
Kade2187 wrote:...And in this instance when i refer to leather armor, i do mean any armor with leather as the base whether that be brigantine, scale, banded, ring, or any of the other leather base armors.[...]
Kade2187 wrote:And in this instance when i refer to leather armor, i do mean any armor with leather as the base whether that be brigantine, scale, banded, ring, or any of the other leather base armors.
Kade2187 wrote:i am curious as to the historical argument that was made. The argument was that plate was far more prevalent than leather for armor.
Kade2187 wrote:Do you really want me to start linking you examples of leather armor used in the period by various cultures?
Return to History, Warfare, and Tactics
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests