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Elebrim wrote:...I question why lately it seems like we must do everything that Amtgard does or else we are no longer the best fighters. I don't think it's right or necessary.
Arrakis wrote:Juniper stay undercutting folks.
Arrakis wrote:Juniper stay undercutting folks.
Aegis wrote:better undercutting than gouging.Arrakis wrote:Juniper stay undercutting folks.
Arrakis wrote:You trying to say something, genericelt?
Noik wrote:And Beck that was dumb.
Forkbeard wrote:This Beck kid is a moron.
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Arrakis wrote:You trying to say something, genericelt?
Beck wrote:Arrakis wrote:Juniper stay undercutting folks.Aegis wrote:better undercutting than gouging.Arrakis wrote:Juniper stay undercutting folks.Arrakis wrote:You trying to say something, genericelt?
Oh jeez, general mayhem people. You two just don't get along very well do you?
Izareth wrote: but if your character was raised by elves, that's usually pretty lame nomatter who you are.
Juniper Wynd wrote:What does your insignia look like?
Arrakis wrote:I'd just like to see garbers pay themselves more than $3/hour to stitch garb, after overhead, maintenance on their machines, thread, fabric, and pattern alteration costs/time.
The hero Belegarth deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A Viking *.
kadis wrote:If she and her client decide that it is a fair price, then it is, and that should be the end of it. Good for her if she can afford to do it for her prices.
The hero Belegarth deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A Viking *.
Ilariia Bulochnika wrote:The point hes trying to make is not that you are unhappy with the amount you are making, but that the prices you are charging undercut everyone else, making it nearly impossible for anyone to actually charge get what the work is worth. It has little to do with your quality, because of how much you undercut, that most newbs (and some vets) now expect that price for any garb because they don't understand the value and work that goes into it.
This is precisely why I got out of garb making, far too much undercutting that it wasn't worth my time. (Not by just you, in the market in general. )
The hero Belegarth deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A Viking *.
It's warm in the Pod.
---Frmr. Lt. Rimmer Dahl
faline wrote:Ilariia - Every time I come to the board you have a new name. Just an observation lol.
The hero Belegarth deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A Viking *.
It's warm in the Pod.
---Frmr. Lt. Rimmer Dahl
Peregrine wrote:but you didn't work donut in.
The hero Belegarth deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A Viking *.
Ilariia Bulochnika wrote:Peregrine wrote:but you didn't work donut in.
Oh yes I did! "Bulochnika" roughly means "the Baker"
faline wrote:Undercutting sucks.
I charge $10 an hour for labor, which is a god damned steal since the equipment I've got makes me worthy of an honest tailor business. But, I like fighters and I like pretty garb. I like fighters to have pretty garb because it makes the sport better.
I can do the basic tabard for $25 with serging and quality fabrics (twill most likely).
The embroidery will cost you around $15 to $20 depending on how difficult it is for me to digitize the thing. It doesn't look terribly difficult. Right now completion and delivery times are falling around 2 weeks.
The pants would be another $25-$30 (depending on the amount of fabric needed). I reinforce all seams and can add extra enforcement in the knee area if you have the tendency to rip those out. It happens. All seams on the pants are serged (that means I use 4 threads to sew the edges to keep them from raveling as well as keeping seams from ripping out).
Interested? Send me a pm.
Ilariia - Every time I come to the board you have a new name. Just an observation lol.
Peregrine wrote:Arrakis do you have some pics of work. I am a vet who does not mind paying for quality. I tend to by my stuff at renfairs where I can see the quality, but I would rather give my money to someone in Belegarth.
faline wrote:depending on how difficult it is for me to digitize the thing. It doesn't look terribly difficult.
The hero Belegarth deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A Viking *.
It's warm in the Pod.
---Frmr. Lt. Rimmer Dahl
It's warm in the Pod.
---Frmr. Lt. Rimmer Dahl
Ilariia Bulochnika wrote:The point hes trying to make is not that you are unhappy with the amount you are making, but that the prices you are charging undercut everyone else, making it nearly impossible for anyone to actually charge get what the work is worth. It has little to do with your quality, because of how much you undercut, that most newbs (and some vets) now expect that price for any garb because they don't understand the value and work that goes into it.
This is precisely why I got out of garb making, far too much undercutting that it wasn't worth my time. (Not by just you, in the market in general. )
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Arrakis wrote:It is very reasonable to enjoy making garb. If I didn't I wouldn't spend time doing it.
All of the reasons encountered in the preceding posts contribute to why I rarely make very simple or very plain garb and primarily do only semi-custom stuff with applique and piecework, typically in linen, wool, linen/cotton blends, or Onsaburg. I doubt I'd have as many local sales if I were nearest a Belegarth Realm instead of a Dag chapter for that reason.
Anyway, I'm not saying you should raise your prices. It's good for the sport to have a continually-producing entry-level garb seller selling cheap starter garb. *shrug* I guess I just need to advertise better.
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faline wrote:Undercutting sucks.
I charge $10 an hour for labor, which is a god damned steal since the equipment I've got makes me worthy of an honest tailor business. But, I like fighters and I like pretty garb. I like fighters to have pretty garb because it makes the sport better.
I can do the basic tabard for $25 with serging and quality fabrics (twill most likely).
The embroidery will cost you around $15 to $20 depending on how difficult it is for me to digitize the thing. It doesn't look terribly difficult. Right now completion and delivery times are falling around 2 weeks.
The pants would be another $25-$30 (depending on the amount of fabric needed). I reinforce all seams and can add extra enforcement in the knee area if you have the tendency to rip those out. It happens. All seams on the pants are serged (that means I use 4 threads to sew the edges to keep them from raveling as well as keeping seams from ripping out).
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