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Sare wrote:Acorn is the very template of awesome.
Acorn wrote:As to the whole Dag(Coke) not advertising for Bel(Pepsi) thing: the reason that Bel "can't wrap their heads around "that"" is because Dag people like yourself come here and we think that you are all great and would love to have a discussion about similarities and differences and cross gaming and then it is weird when we can't do this on the Dag boards. Seems to me that it's hypocritical for Dag to pretend that Bel and Ampt and others doesn't exist and then come HERE and have the exact discussions that they don't allow on their own board. If Dag is for Dag only and you have that attitude, then why on earth are you on THIS board? (you meaning any dag guys with that attitude, not necessarily you BH).
Blackhawk wrote:Dag saw Bel as competition for members and adopted rules on their forums to keep people from bringing the drama there. Part of that philosophy was, why would we want to help the competition?
Kyrax wrote:
I agree about the no stealing recruits - it's not only rude, it's counterproductive. And, there's a million more people out there who've never heard of any of these games. those are the people we should be trying to recruit.
Phrix wrote:just IMO here but no matter how you say it coke/pepsi are still a soda and bel/dag are both still sports that we pad sticks with foam and hit each other with,
... I don't frequent the dag boards at all because it just seems * head-ish to me to not allow disscussion of other games for cross gaming purposes. and knowing me I wouldn't be able to follow the rules.
Sare wrote:Acorn is the very template of awesome.
The Lost Celt wrote:Dominus **** rainbows, that is all.
bangor wrote:Blackhawk, since Bangor can't ever post on your boards again, Bangor has just three questions:
1. On a casual game day, what does Daghorhir have to offer me that Amtgard, Belegarth, and Darkon do not?
Acorn wrote:BH- why do you say "go ahead and hate me? no one besides wisp has "hated on you" in this discussion.
Sare wrote:Acorn is the very template of awesome.
Kyrax wrote:Uh, no, this is Bel drama or at least the drama stage you've provided to some Belegrim and others to act out their personal version of "Look at Me!!! I'm important!!?!?!!?!"
Alunsun wrote:Kyrax wrote:
I agree about the no stealing recruits - it's not only rude, it's counterproductive. And, there's a million more people out there who've never heard of any of these games. those are the people we should be trying to recruit.
If I may... what exactly is being produced here?
Regardless of your answer, whose product is it? Yours? Dag's? Bel's? ?
Alunsun wrote: How can "poaching recruits lulz" be counterproductive to a sport in which the individual (not the organization) is what provides the results, especially in the case of cross- fighters?
Alunsun wrote: As for your suggestion of recruiting new peeps, it sounds to me like pure gridlock mentality in which both sports are competing to acquire the most of a finite exhaustible resource (people) and not wanting to share them. That is, of course, the way I see it going if you use the "This is the only sport of it's kind" policy that Dag uses.
Alunsun wrote: Also, there have been occasions in which Dag admins (Dominus) have logged on here to dispute what was being said about issues involving the organization….
Alunsun wrote: Also, what do you mean by "no STEALING recruits"? Aren't you a cross- fighter?
Spike wrote:Kyrax wrote:Uh, no, this is Bel drama or at least the drama stage you've provided to some Belegrim and others to act out their personal version of "Look at Me!!! I'm important!!?!?!!?!"
First of all, I haven't provided anyone with any stages for drama. Also, to say that this is being done by "Belegrim and others" is insulting. It's being perpetuated by Belegrim and *gasp* Dagorhir too. So don't point fingers at one group of stupid **** and leave out the other * too...
This **** plays out the same way every single time: Someone gets banned. Whether they deserved it or not, they either BAWW or gloat over the **** here...
... I guess the real important question is why do the people who start these threads seem to think that everyone else gives a ****?
Kyrax wrote:Yup, I am. I’ve done Dagorhir, Darkon, Belegarth and a little Amtgard over the years. I’ve also talked to tons and tons of newbies and take care not to steer someone away from the group that I met them through. For example a recent new person to Belegarth in the Bay Area wanted to find a practice – so I pointed them to the closest active Bel realm (Salamandastron) as well as the Mallenorod Dagorhir practice I help run down in Sunnyvale. Of course, given the sparsity of either game around here, we cross-game a lot, so poaching or stealing doesn’t enter into it.
How can y'all be so blind to the fact that Dagorhir's draconian policies and politics are the reason that there continues to be so much animosity toward your game? If you guys dropped the *, everyone would just move on. It's been almost a decade - people need to just move on.BlackHawk wrote:We simply wish to have a place where ... petty politics and game rivalry have no place.
Thrush wrote:So why complain SO much about what goes on over there. Just don't go. They have made rules to guarantee that you inherently cannot be bad mouthed on their boards as well, which is pretty cool too if you think about it. I agree with what Spike said:
"I guess the real important question is why do the people who start these threads seem to think that everyone else gives a ****?"
Blackhawk wrote:I get it folks. Some of you don't think Dagorhir should be allowed to have a 'just Dagorhir' website. Message received.
Can we move on?
Blackhawk wrote:*Jumping to conclusions
*Explaining something simple with obscure analogies
*Agenda that no one else cares about
*Self-martyrdom
*Attempt to get the last word
Blackhawk wrote:And just cause you like my manliness:
You are right! 38 inches 40oz of perfectly balanced hate!
Come get some!!
Arrakis wrote:Giggles wins the thread forever.
Five Internets, sir.
PS: BH, the problem here is the hypocrisy of "You guys don't want Dagorhir to have a Dag-only web presence!" + "Dagorhir's policies are set by the membership, no one RUNS Dagorhir!" + "Most Dagorhir fighters don't care about politics!"
Why not have a vote at RWC or something and see if the population would rather have an open web presence?
Alunsun wrote:Kyrax wrote:For example a recent new person to Belegarth in the Bay Area wanted to find a practice – so I pointed them to the closest active Bel realm (Salamandastron) as well as the Mallenorod Dagorhir practice I help run down in Sunnyvale. Of course, given the sparsity of either game around here, we cross-game a lot, so poaching or stealing doesn’t enter into it.
-Would you have done the same thing for Bel if it was a Dag fighter, or would you only have mentioned the Dag practices and NOT the Bel practice?
Tor wrote:*Do not post about non-Dagorhir organizations or non-Dagorhir events.
Romanempire.net (in some of your "Roman" people's sigs) mentions the SCA and Marklands, both non-Dagorhir organizations.
Police your ****.
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