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Freki wrote:so where do we go from here
Freki wrote:That would be most helpful. PMed
Part of the GSL wrote:Members must not be paid, must not expect pay, and cannot act outside reasonable common sense.
Æthelric wrote:Looks good. I'm looking forward to this moving ahead.
What would we need to provide as proof of training/certifications to get a ranking?
BTW, I'm assuming that basic first aid/CPR training would qualify as an EMR based on this list. Is that correct?
I apologize if I missed that discussion in the thread so far.
Freki wrote:Æthelric wrote:Looks good. I'm looking forward to this moving ahead.
What would we need to provide as proof of training/certifications to get a ranking?
BTW, I'm assuming that basic first aid/CPR training would qualify as an EMR based on this list. Is that correct?
I apologize if I missed that discussion in the thread so far.
As for proof of certification, I know of a website that was started, but needs to be revamped. We are currently working on getting a new one up as a collective database for all members credentials / certificates.
As for the First Responders, they are ind that have been through the Red cross First air class...CRP and BLS (basic live saving skills) classes...no more than 6 to 8 Hrs. It's all good if you missed it though, no worries. If you have any more questions fell free to PM me or just ask away on here.
Thorondor wrote:The bigger form w/ medical history would be beneficial if something does happen and we need to take the fighter to the hospital. We would have all of their medications, etc with us to give to the hospital. I remember one event that the person ended up with alcohol poisoning and was taken to the hospital. They were in NO shape to give any medical information so having something like the first form would have been extremely helpful for the hospital.
Thorondor wrote:As for the declination form, that is for additional protection of the members of the guild. Lets say your finger is dislocated and at a 90 degree angle from your hand...medic gets there and says "i'm a medic, do you want me to fix your finger?" You say no, i'll do it myself and then pop it back into joint. We'd want you to sign off on the medical declination form because if you did something wrong it wouldn't be blamed on the medic.
Tails wrote:Thorondor wrote:As for the declination form, that is for additional protection of the members of the guild. Lets say your finger is dislocated and at a 90 degree angle from your hand...medic gets there and says "i'm a medic, do you want me to fix your finger?" You say no, i'll do it myself and then pop it back into joint. We'd want you to sign off on the medical declination form because if you did something wrong it wouldn't be blamed on the medic.
I disagree with this on the basis of the fact that under the GSL we are bystanders. We are not in charge of their health. If they pop their finger back and later they feel the reprocutions, it will still not be our fault for not giving them proper care. We just happened to be by them. This is why I feel that the declination form is too much.
Tails wrote:It's why I think we should cut out all of the forms all together. But at the same time people do have serious medical conditions and it certainly is hard to get good info from them when they are intoxicated.
Æthelric wrote:I think that any medical data collected should be very simple and straightforward, and all of them should be voluntarily disclosed, like this:
- Do you have any life-threatening allergies that you wish to inform (Medics Guild/Event Organizers/etc.) about?
- Do you have any serious medical conditions (such as one that an EMT would need to know about if one were called) that you wish to inform [Medics Guild/Event Organizers/etc.] about?
I don't really see a need for getting more information that something like that, though, and I think it would be best if we made it clear that they don't have to answer if they don't want to.
Thorondor wrote:Makes sense to me. I would leave it at "allergies" instead of life-threatening allergies though. I have a 3 drug allergies and 2 of them aren't life threatening, but I let medical people know about them because the reactions are rather unpleasant.
Tails wrote:A: You missed the point of a guild system.
B: This has been hashed out already
C:Also has been hashed out.
Thanks for your input. I'm glad someone still reads this ****. On the topic, we may or may not get insurance soon, so that would radically change the approach to this issue. I want this to happen, I really do. I'm waiting to see what happens as far as the issue of insurance is concerned.
megs wrote:I still think NO ONE should be carrying scalpels or suture kits (or IV lines, or saline bags, or O2), even if you've spent 7 years as an army trauma surgeon and have now been working at your local ER as head of trauma.
megs wrote:I (an LPN) would defer to your experience and knowledge, but I don't think we should be sewing or cutting people up.
Someone stated earlier that most (if not all) of our event sites are near enough to a hospital for an ambulance ride and I agree (now someone may need to stand out by the road so the ambulance knows which dirt path to take, but hey at least it gets there)
megs wrote:I also think that for injuries more than a scrape we, as bystanders, recommend the injured person see a doctor, if not right away then after the event. this ankle is probably sprained, but I recommend you see a doctor and get it x-rayed. For now I'll wrap it with this sports wrap and you need to elevate it, ice it and try not to walk on it too much.
megs wrote:I like the tabard/tunic/garb/vest ideas better than an armband. A belt flag could be useful on the field if the person is also wearing a unit/kingdom tabard or tunic. As for staffing at events perhaps a sign-up (like running troll)
Koom Di' Puts wrote:And here I thought the point of the game was to have fun?
Savage wrote: I find that beer often aids in this process.
Ticonderoga wrote:And if all else fails. I'm getting my mom.
Forkbeard wrote:[And]I'm going to continue being a happy sword weilding wierdo until then.
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Koom Di' Puts wrote:And here I thought the point of the game was to have fun?
Savage wrote: I find that beer often aids in this process.
Ticonderoga wrote:And if all else fails. I'm getting my mom.
Forkbeard wrote:[And]I'm going to continue being a happy sword weilding wierdo until then.
FB
Blitz(IG) wrote:Any Idea of when this will pick back up?? im totally intrested in this.
Not yet quailfied, but soon hope to be in CPR.
Thurat wrote:I'll be at Okfest this year for (hopefully) Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. I'm EMT-B certified, and would gladly take time to step out and help with basic injuries (e.g Bloody noses, shallows cuts, and so forth.) Maybe a sideline booth stocked with cheap first aid items such as OTC pain relief, allergy relief, disinfectant, and so forth?
MorganDrakeheart wrote:So I'm sewing some basic Red Cross belt flags
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