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New glaive I've been working on...Wolf Glaive mach 2

Postby Geshtal » Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:00 am

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2292062537682.186145.1132560070&type=1&ref=notif&notif_t=like

Over all length: 7'-3"
Stabby?: YES
Total striking layers: 4

I'm debating on counter weighting but I'm not sure if I should.
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Re: New glaive I've been working on...Wolf Glaive mach 2

Postby Caleidah » Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:11 am

Excuse me while I steal that design.
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Re: New glaive I've been working on...Wolf Glaive mach 2

Postby Geshtal » Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:12 am

You wont be the first Ruben stole the design from mach 1
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Re: New glaive I've been working on...Wolf Glaive mach 2

Postby Brutus » Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:34 am

That looks really good, and I hate to be the one to break this to you, but your glaive should probably fail. The spikes on the wolf-head probably fail the 2.5" rule. Now the rules only cover striking surfaces and cross-guards, but typically any part of a weapon is checked to satisfy this requirement. So there is wiggle room on how the rule is interpreted, but I'd say these protrusions fail an interpretation of the rule that matches its spirit and intent.
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Re: New glaive I've been working on...Wolf Glaive mach 2

Postby Geshtal » Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:18 am

Easy fix will be cutting 45 degree notches outta the corners of the ears and fur. The actual thickness of the shield hook is close to 3.5 inches so the cuts will remove the ability to pass and inch through a 2.5 inch hole.
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Re: New glaive I've been working on...Wolf Glaive mach 2

Postby Brutus » Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:37 am

The geometry involved is pretty complicated. I recommend getting a 2.5" hole saw and creating a template to test the corners from all angles. Depending on how you cut your notches your idea might work. Another option would be to fill in the negative space between the spikes with foam but paint them a contrasting color.
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Re: New glaive I've been working on...Wolf Glaive mach 2

Postby Sir Thurat » Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:14 pm

Brutus wrote: Another option would be to fill in the negative space between the spikes with foam but paint them a contrasting color.


This sounds like the best plan of action. It would a terrible shame to modify it otherwise. Beautiful weapon.
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Re: New glaive I've been working on...Wolf Glaive mach 2

Postby Cade » Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:22 am

Caleidah wrote:Excuse me while I steal that design.


yep....this.

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Re: New glaive I've been working on...Wolf Glaive mach 2

Postby Doozer » Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:11 pm

That's a sweet looking glaive. Well crafted and the detail is top notch.

I have a question about handle length, and i hope this doesn't come off as *, but it looks like the handle is half the length of the weapon.

1.4.2.3. The maximum handle length for Class 2 Weapons is eighteen (18) inches or one-third (1/3) of the overall length, whichever
is greater. This cannot exceed one-half (1/2) of the overall length.

It might be the angle i'm looking at it from, or my interpretation of the rules, and if so, let me know, but that handle looks like half the weapon's length and well over 18 inches.
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Re: New glaive I've been working on...Wolf Glaive mach 2

Postby Arrakis » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:46 pm

First up, I recommend a 2.5" brass ring (cheap online from places that sell macrame cord) instead of a hole saw, since a 2.5" hole saw will produce a 2.7" hole.

Second up, if you mean four layers of bluefoam, that isn't going to pass the hit test. My 49" redswords on 1/2" square fiberglass pass with 4 layers of bluefoam on them, but not for more than about 6 months and they're 3 feet shorter and significantly lighter and more flexible than your glaive.
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Re: New glaive I've been working on...Wolf Glaive mach 2

Postby Osric/Mageta » Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:52 pm

I'm sort of reminded of Voltron. Not that that's a bad thing.
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Re: New glaive I've been working on...Wolf Glaive mach 2

Postby Brutus » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:41 am

Arrakis wrote:First up, I recommend a 2.5" brass ring (cheap online from places that sell macrame cord) instead of a hole saw, since a 2.5" hole saw will produce a 2.7" hole.


I just measured the 2.5" hole saw that I got with a porter-cable 6-saw kit this past weekend using the digital calipers from our weapon checking kit, and it came in at 2.500" exactly (outer diameter). Maybe the hole saw you've used was for creating 2.5" circles, not a 2.5" hole. Either way, it is good to keep in mind when you go to buy hole saws.

I like the hole saw method because you can use 1/2" thick stock and then you don't have to worry about measuring how far out the other side of the template something protrudes. If you look at it on edge and you can see a protrusion, it fails.
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Re: New glaive I've been working on...Wolf Glaive mach 2

Postby Arrakis » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:32 pm

Drilling in wood either results in a smaller or larger than intended hole, due to compressibility of the material and heat and moisture effects. When you factor in wear... well, I've seen some templates at events that were definitely not to spec. That's why I didn't recommend it.

A 1/2" thick 6061-T6 Aluminum billet with a 2.000" and a 2.500" hole would be ideal. Well. Tungsten would be ideal, for its extremely low coefficient of thermal expansion, but it'd be really heavy, so I guess it depends on how much you value weight vs. ludicrously tight accuracy.

Anyway, do you have a piece of 1/2" plywood with a hole drilled by your new saw? It would be interesting to know what the ID of that hole is, fresh, considering that we know the OD of the saw itself.
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Re: New glaive I've been working on...Wolf Glaive mach 2

Postby Brutus » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:53 am

I haven't had a chance to make one yet, but hopefully this weekend. When you order your tungsten template, order one for Riverbend too. $5 limit.
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Re: New glaive I've been working on...Wolf Glaive mach 2

Postby Arrakis » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:34 pm

Brutus wrote:I haven't had a chance to make one yet, but hopefully this weekend. When you order your tungsten template, order one for Riverbend too. $5 limit.


Hah hah hah sure thing, man.
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Re: New glaive I've been working on...Wolf Glaive mach 2

Postby Geshtal » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:19 am

Been meaning to get more pics up the plasti diping is almost done, just need another coat, and i have yet to get the faux wolf fur for the haft padding. This thing feels amazing in actual combat, and so far for the realm they've allowed it despite the wolf head not passing template. I'm thinking of making a removable kit to allow it to be passed at a national event. But seriously don't think id even take it to one other than to show off how pretty it is
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Re: New glaive I've been working on...Wolf Glaive mach 2

Postby bo1 » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:52 am

alluminum would be best for the template, i would think it would bend in rough transit. tungsten is besty but pricy, lexan is cheap(by comparison) and very workable for machining.
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