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Big King Jimmy wrote:In IL I'd be able to wear an elbow practice and a short sleeve shirt,.
Blackwolfe wrote:1.2.5 Any piece of modern equipment or clothing required out of medical necessity overrules the minimum garb requirements but should be covered when possible by clothing that meets the minimum garb requirements, or the item should be superficially altered when possible to meet minimum garb requirements.
Magpie Saegar wrote:Big King Jimmy wrote:In IL I'd be able to wear an elbow practice and a short sleeve shirt,.
You're saying that Illinois Heralds don't think it's possible to cover the elbows? Sheesh. AFAIK long sleeved tunics still exist there...
This type of rule works. There will be some differences in enforcement, but it's mostly common sense once people realize that it requires them to put in some effort to look better. Sunglasses are a sticking point -- of course it's possible, but it's substantially more difficult/costly than elbows/knees/cup/etc.
Thurat wrote:Personally, I like Blackwolfe's suggested edit to this:Blackwolfe wrote:1.2.5 Any piece of modern equipment or clothing required out of medical necessity overrules the minimum garb requirements but should be covered when possible by clothing that meets the minimum garb requirements, or the item should be superficially altered when possible to meet minimum garb requirements.
"[...] should be covered when possible [...]". This makes coverage of safety equipment a strong suggestion, not a hard rule that can be misconstrued by various heralds.
It would put pressure on people to do their best to cover their safety equipment, but without risking forcing people off the field.
Big King Jimmy wrote:I'm against any change the rules which makes it more difficult to wear safety equipment, including the need to modify or cover it. This also jumps back over the sunglasses debate. Whether you believe or disblieve that sunglasses are safety equipment, I'd like to see you get a rule passed that says that I have cover or modify my sunglasses.
The other thing is, who decides when it's "possilbe" to cover or modify something. It's always POSSIBLE, the extent of the effort required is what changes from a case to case and item to item basis. So, basically, this rule is stating that it must be covered "Whenever the herald wants it to be." Which means that it would be enforced to different extents by different people all across the country. In IL I'd be able to wear an elbow practice and a short sleeve shirt, I go out to chaos and what I've been told repeatedly is acceptable can easily be questioned, or might not be based solely on the opinion of the herald.
That's a can of worms I don't want anything to with.
1.2.5 Any piece of modern equipment or clothing required out of medical necessity overrules the minimum garb requirements but should be covered when possible by clothing that meets the minimum garb requirements, or the item should be superficially altered when possible to meet minimum garb requirements.
Big King Jimmy wrote:So, in response Magpie, I'm not an idiot and I'm not argumentative, I just don't agree.
Kage wrote:Just going to point out here that using the word "should" makes the rule utterly impossible to even enforce.
I like that safety equipment should be covered but saying "Oh but you don't have to" at the same time more or less is just stupid. It will not change anything.
This rule change just isn't worth it. As a marshal it would stare me in the face as a written rule that cannot be enforced which for me means you shouldn't have the rule at all.
Thurat wrote:It's a matter of codifying the intent of the rules. They help new people get a feel for the expectations of the group, without having to be here for ages and ages.
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