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Kyrian wrote:Thanks to the rain gods (that includes you, Gorlock)
Derian wrote:Well, ****. Par is right.
Sir Par wrote:This rule ISN'T open for interpretation. There is no questionable wording. If both hands are on the spear it's double green. End of story. The real problem is that some realms are choosing to play in ways NOT outlined by the book of war. The reason we have the rules is so that areas DON'T develop things like this. Your marshals need to be enforcing the rules AS WRITTEN not as they think they should be.
Cyric wrote:As for the rules, a lot of rules have magically disappeared over the years through various versions of the book of war. Defending them as Holy Writ isn't really possible if they keep changing without being voted on.
Brutus wrote: The real issue here is that the way the rules are written does not reflect either the intent of the rule...or the way the rule is played in some regions.
Sir Anastasia wrote:I think with regards to realism, stabs are more likely to go through real armor than slashing hits. I think playability is a huge concern with your interpretation: How do you determine the force a person is applying from each hand to conclude one hand is slacking? If you feel sufficient force and someone yells "two," you need to take that hit.
If a person can pool cue in a hit with sufficient force, then it is a hit and two hands are on it. Why should a different amount of force be needed beyond sufficient? If a person weighs 90 lbs and does sufficient force isn't that enough? Obviously a person who weighs more could deliver a better shot with proper mechanics. Should we only take the shot from the larger person? How do you tell if a hand is contributing enough to a two-handed stab? or any two-handed shot? How do you tell "how much hand" someone has on a weapon?
Our rules don't have a mechanism for that... what we have is that when two-hands are on it and you yell "two," it is a two-handed shot. I can determine whether a hit is sufficient for me to take it, but there isn't a mechanism for me to determine that a hand isn't doing enough work... nor is there any mention of it in the rules at all.
I can tell you as an old timer from the midwest and a current west fighter that once upon a time we even symbolically place a second hand on class I/III (blue/green) swords to stab with them for the "double green." This was always accepted as "two handed," and was specifically explained to be both a "symbolic hand" AND something that went through armor.
Deciding "how much hand" is present is a terrible way to get around the fact that you didn't block a hit that had sufficient force. Armor shouldn't negate all hits...you already get to be stabbed one handed with no consequence... I feel this is a supremely cheesy interpretation.
Anastasia of Chamonix wrote:Horde marched to the field. Their leaders up in the air, adorned in furs and animal skulls. Women from camps chained underneath the platforms, fire-breathers & flag bearers ran about before of the procession. I have never in my life felt closer to being in a fantasy world. I will always remember that for a moment I thought so many things were possible.
Kyrian wrote:Thanks to the rain gods (that includes you, Gorlock)
Kyrian wrote:Thanks to the rain gods (that includes you, Gorlock)
3.7.2. Combatants attacking an opponent from behind with a two-handed strike from a Class 2 or 3 Weapon MUST shout "TWO". This informs the opponent that the attack was a two-handed strike, and caused two points of Injury. If "TWO" is not called, the opponent should consider a successful strike to cause a single hit of Injury.
Kyrian wrote:Thanks to the rain gods (that includes you, Gorlock)
Kyrian wrote:Thanks to the rain gods (that includes you, Gorlock)
Anastasia of Chamonix wrote:Horde marched to the field. Their leaders up in the air, adorned in furs and animal skulls. Women from camps chained underneath the platforms, fire-breathers & flag bearers ran about before of the procession. I have never in my life felt closer to being in a fantasy world. I will always remember that for a moment I thought so many things were possible.
eeach wrote:I straight won't take a red-shot to a shield, hard enough or not, if the attacker doesn't say 'RED' or 'TWO'. I tell them that too: "You've gotta say it for it to count."
Caleidah wrote:eeach wrote:I straight won't take a red-shot to a shield, hard enough or not, if the attacker doesn't say 'RED' or 'TWO'. I tell them that too: "You've gotta say it for it to count."
That is straight up cheating.
The Book of War wrote:3.7.2. Combatants attacking an opponent from behind with a two-handed strike from a Class 2 or 3 Weapon MUST shout “TWO”. This informs the opponent that the attack was a two-handed strike, and caused two points of Injury. If “TWO” is not called, the opponent should consider a successful strike to cause a single hit of Injury.
The Book of War wrote:3.1.1. Body – Area bounded by the base of neck (***inclusive***), shoulder-arm joint (inclusive), hip-leg socket (inclusive), groin, and buttocks (inclusive).
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3.1.4. Head – Area above the base of neck (***exclusive***).
Anastasia of Chamonix wrote:Horde marched to the field. Their leaders up in the air, adorned in furs and animal skulls. Women from camps chained underneath the platforms, fire-breathers & flag bearers ran about before of the procession. I have never in my life felt closer to being in a fantasy world. I will always remember that for a moment I thought so many things were possible.
The Book of War wrote:3.7.2. Combatants attacking an opponent from behind with a two-handed strike from a Class 2 or 3 Weapon MUST shout “TWO”. This informs the opponent that the attack was a two-handed strike, and caused two points of Injury. If “TWO” is not called, the opponent should consider a successful strike to cause a single hit of Injury.
The Book of War wrote:3.1.1. Body – Area bounded by the base of neck (inclusive), shoulder-arm joint (inclusive), hip-leg socket (inclusive), groin, and buttocks (inclusive).
[...]
3.1.4. Head – Area above the base of neck (***exclusive***).
Bishop wrote:Overall I believe the article was positive for our image, loosely defining us as a sadomasochist anti-larp. I'm ok with that. http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/LARP-harder
Caleidah wrote:But, his sensei passed that style down to him! Literal hours of tradition!
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