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Satanaka wrote:It would seem that if you held your own BLADE- (you would loose the hand) and if you got hit in the sword or blocked with it- common sense would say that you could get the hand cut- MUCH LIKE getting hit in the hand.
A bunch of us (most Veterans) were talking about this. If it is a double edge blade- you'd loose the hand- if it's a single edge blade- then you could use it to block.
Someone mentioned that many of the blades used were doubled edge- BUT that they were not that sharp- as well as the person had metal gauntlets on.
I know that over the last 6 years we (as in Belegarth leadership) have been makeing more rules that clarify and define and fine tune.
Of course- I'd think this is common sense- BUT- for every one that doesn't think so- Why would we not call it a damaged hand like the sword hitting it- IF they have a hand on a blade????
Thanks
Kage wrote:3.1.5. Hand(s) - Area below the wrist (exclusive). An empty Hand is a legal Target Area. Any Injury to the Hand is considered Injury to the Arm. A Hand on a Weapon or Shield is considered part of that Weapon or Shield.3.7.3. Blocking a Weapon strike by laying a Weapon against a Target Area and/or Shield is illegal.3.7.5. Gripping the striking surface of an opponents Weapon results in the disabling of that limb.
Honestly this one has been debated before. These 3 rules are the main ones used for hand on weapon type questions. A hand on a weapon is just that a hand on weapon. Hands holding a weapon are no longer viable targets so they are no longer valid target areas. I bolded opponents for a reason. You can grab your swords striking surface all you want, but not your opponents swords striking surface.
So long story short. Yes, I am of the opinion, that you can block the way you asked without anviling.
Magpie of Rhun:
* we could assume that hands were gauntleted
* a hand on a weapon is part of that weapon -- not a target area
Derian wrote:This seems like such a minor point I'm not sure we should be arguing about 'fair and balanced'. Very few people actually do this, and those who do don't gain much of an advantage over those who do.
I'm in favor of clarifying the rules just so that we don't have to have arguments about it.
Derian wrote:Wow, that was completely unnecessary.
I was talking about the arguments that happen on the field because of the lack of clarity in the rules, but thanks for pulling the thread down.
Magpie of Rhun wrote:SO TO RECAP, the reasons Magpie thinks half-swording should be viable in our game are as follows:
* It has historical precedent
* It poses no threat to safety (unlike gripping an opponent's striking surface -- which breaks down the foam more)
* It does not unbalance the game
* It's hella-fun and looks awesome when done well
* we could assume that hands were gauntleted
* a hand on a weapon is part of that weapon -- not a target area
* playability is not a serious issue -- it's obvious enough to tell the difference between half-swording and accidentally chopping your hand off.
There are no staffs in Belegarth. Because of how they are constructed, they are really Pugil Sticks.
A bunch of us (most Veterans) were talking about this. If it is a double edge blade- you'd loose the hand- if it's a single edge blade- then you could use it to block.
Rasheab wrote:Why do we have to assume everyone is wearing -metal- gauntlets? Leather armor counts the same as metal armor here, and it is reasonable to assume people are wearing some kind of gauntlets when they are fighting.
Debuenzo: "So if you can grab the non-striking part of a single edged sword for a successful block, could you lay the non striking part of a single-edged sword on your arm, leg, or torso for a successful block?
3.7.5. Gripping the striking surface of an opponents Weapon results in the disabling of that limb. Gripping the striking surface of your own weapon has no effect.
3.7.5. Gripping the striking surface of a Weapon results in the disabling of that limb.
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