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BoW wrote:3.1.7. Composite - Armor constructed of both metal and leather.
3.2. Armor must be passed by Marshals from two separate realms, assuming an inter-realm event.
3.7.2. Composite Armor must be identifiable as Armor by appearance.
BoW wrote:1.4. Creative interpretation of the rules to gain any advantage is discouraged. These rules are intentionally sparse to allow for ease of use. The Marshal, according to these rules, and medieval foam combat precedent, settles all disputes.
Actually, I would have no problem seeing padded jacks counted as armor. Even stuff like linothorax would be okay with me. But we're not talking about that. I'd like to see something done to stop "studded armor" and similar cheese from hitting the field.Forkbeard wrote:What we need is a quality standard for armor.
Cloth armor sure as **** exsisted. It was used all over the **** world at different times.
Since we don't have any kind of quality standard, people can wear a t-shirt with tacs all over it. They can wear 3/16" of soft elkskin made into a shirt.
The cloth is not the problem. Is the acceptance of ANYTHING that is made from "the right materials" and lacks sharp edges.
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Arrakis wrote:Herp Derp exercise your marshallate authority by just **** faliing **** that exploits 1.4 and shouldn't pass.
Also, pass any armor you think is valid armor whether it's metal/leather or not. You can do that. Legally.
Giggles wrote:For the record, I think all leather armor should be hardened, otherwise it's just a costume.
Giggles wrote:Kage, if you follow a strict by the book reading of our rules, a carpet tack t-shirt is passing armor.
~ Kade ~ wrote: Right now studded cloth or soft leather is passing armor according to the rules
Forkbeard wrote:Cloth armor sure as **** exsisted. It was used all over the **** world at different times.
Arrakis wrote:Herp Derp exercise your marshallate authority by just **** faliing **** that exploits 1.4 and shouldn't pass.
Changes wrote:Cloth - Armor constructed of layered or laminated/glued cloth.
Cloth Armor can only be counted as Armor if the cloth is layered or laminated/glued to a thickness of 3/16" and semi rigid.
Cloth Armor must be identifiable as Armor.
Kage wrote:Changes wrote:Cloth - Armor constructed of layered or laminated/glued cloth.
Cloth Armor can only be counted as Armor if the cloth is layered or laminated/glued to a thickness of 3/16" and semi rigid.
Cloth Armor must be identifiable as Armor.
Oisin wrote:Nah, it just takes a little bit of creative interpretation on the marshal's part to find an equally good argument that studded cloth isn't legal.
3.1.7. Composite - Armor constructed of both metal and leather.
3.5. The minimum thickness for leather Armor is 3/16 inch. The minimum thickness requirement can be achieved by layering up to two pieces of thinner leather.
3.6.2.2. [Metal armor must be made] Using a material with a thickness of at least 20 gauge.
Composite armour is made using metal and leather. There are rules for how thick leather and metal must be to count as armour. If a particular set of, say, studded cloth armour is overly cheesy, fail it for not being made of metal AND leather. Or for the metal being thinner than 20 gauge.
That being said . . . a real brig or coat of plates with steel plates and a cloth shell? I'd pass it in a heartbeat, with compliments.
Elebrim wrote:...I question why lately it seems like we must do everything that Amtgard does or else we are no longer the best fighters. I don't think it's right or necessary.
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