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Squire Moxk wrote:Passing something like this would change one of the core features of our book of war, which is why it works so well as a rule book. It is intentionally sparse. We never tell people anywhere in the book of war what methods are acceptable to build with, because no one could ever have determined what methods would be used in the future to build passing legal swords when the document was written.
Actually there is one rule about how to build weapons, and that is the one that states that tape on the striking surface should be kept to a minimum. Now a lot of people want to remove that rule from the book of war, because of it's short shortsightedness about new construction methods.
Book of War wrote:
- 1.3.9. A Weapon may not have a metal core
- 1.4.7.7. (Javelins) Must have a yellow cover
- 1.4.8.6. All arrows must contain a perpendicular penny secured at the end of the shaft.
- 1.4.8.7. The arrow’s striking surface must be constructed of open-cell foam
- 1.4.8.9. The striking surface of an arrow must be tape free
Tiberius Claudius wrote:When I checked them (and re-checked three more times throughout the night) they were safe and were allowed to be used with the caveat that these builds were stupid, a waste of materials, and would not be allowed on the field the next week.
Forkbeard wrote:But, people DO build serious weapons from fun noodle. They bring a whole sack of them to events and wear one out and get another from their bag. They PLAN to wear them out to an unsafe degree in combat, knowing that while they passed check they will wear out imediatly.
Many amt dudes do this all the time. Some bel people do it, too. That why I think fun noodle should go.
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Forkbeard wrote:But, people DO build serious weapons from fun noodle. They bring a whole sack of them to events and wear one out and get another from their bag. They PLAN to wear them out to an unsafe degree in combat, knowing that while they passed check they will wear out imediatly.
Many amt dudes do this all the time. Some bel people do it, too. That why I think fun noodle should go.
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Forkbeard wrote:I don't pay enough attention to regular amt dudes to know their names.
But there were at least 4 weapons like this in the garbage at chaos with broken cores
Arrakis wrote: Though I do wonder how in **** a noodlebat made on a core that CAN snap that easily ever possibly made weight and I know it almost certainly never scored a legal hit anyone should have taken...
Spyn wrote:If you are making Belegarth and Dagorhir weapons with any type of pool noodle, your doing it wrong.
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Arrakis wrote:Heralds making fighters take shots that the fighters claim were insufficient is the problem, there.
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Angmarth wrote:Arrakis wrote:Heralds making fighters take shots that the fighters claim were insufficient is the problem, there.
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This is true, but the herald is put into a uniquely bad position. If you see a person get hit, and hear it, it is assumed that the hit was good enough. The reality is, unless our rules are changed to remove sufficient force (which I would fight tooth and nail to prevent) this is seems to be a growing problem. Fighters are min/maxing their weapons by using the lightest core possible and then weighting the handles to enable the weapon to make weight. In my opinion this is the wrong direction for our game to be going, but I might be in the minority here.
Angmarth wrote:Arrakis wrote:Heralds making fighters take shots that the fighters claim were insufficient is the problem, there.
This is true, but the herald is put into a uniquely bad position. If you see a person get hit, and hear it, it is assumed that the hit was good enough. The reality is, unless our rules are changed to remove sufficient force (which I would fight tooth and nail to prevent) this is seems to be a growing problem.
Spyn wrote:If you are making Belegarth and Dagorhir weapons with any type of pool noodle, your doing it wrong.
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Graavish wrote:it's not the weight of the weapon that makes for a solid hit, it's how much i don't like you when i'm swinging.
Loptr wrote:Side note here.
Apparently its not just Amt x-overs using noodle.
At Thaw there were Bel peeps from the Pac NW area that were using noodle swords. I was genuinely surprised to see this.
Here in UT we have managed to get X-overs to use proper tech at Bel events with a high degree of consistency. With the exception of Border Wars which is an annomoly due to it being right next to and during the last half of the Amt park.
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Forkbeard wrote:They should go. We're going to fail them at Sam Hain.
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