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Postby Horati OTFH » Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:44 pm

Oisin wrote:
Horati wrote:Once again, Oisin have you not read the thread. I am a townie. I have been a townie since day 1 and I still am. We know this from the way people have been killed. If it were I, Versago wouldn't be dead. Tuba would have been dead a lot earlier and pretty much the whole game would be different.


That's blatant WIFOM logic . . . what's to say that if you're in the mafia then (a) you have complete control over who gets killed, and (b) that you didn't kill Versago and leave Tuba alive just so you could make this argument? And don't say because you don't kill your friends, this is a game on the internet, not real life.


A) I don't have any control on what goes on other than voting for lynches...
and B) Because I find Tuba's banter annoying, and Versago actually tried to make his statements fun.
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Postby Nor » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:15 am

Elohssa seems to be the best option to me right now. I'm honestly not quite sure who else could possibly be IC. I think Mel is apart of the cult but as I said I don't think thats much of a threat right now though I'm not sure.

I have a very solid belief that myself, savetuba, and Oisin are not IC and are not in a cult. My reasonings for myself is obviously I wouldn't tell you if I was IC or not. I would proclaim my innocence until the end. But Oisin already cleared me. For savetuba I dont think Elebrim would put him in IC or the cult because he knew he would probably be targeted and that isn't fun for game play. Elebrim is pretty cool on making things amusing. Oisin I don't believe is either because he has led us right straight through. Though talk of a Godfather points my finger at him if anyone. By claiming a cop role he draws us to a safety and we believe him but he could possibly be doing that on purpose so that we can kill the rest of the IC thus winning him the game. I doubt it though. But it is something to think about.

Rowan threw a curve ball in though I don't believe it. I think he is quite possibly just a regular town member.

Thats my two cents more. I'm sticking with my original vote.
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Postby savetuba » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:20 pm

And with so many gone to spring wars we should leave off till monday.

However, one last idea that I must present. Suppose the healer did come forward and the townies knew it was bad. Wouldn't you think a few of those townies would go on a mad venture to claim to be the medic in hopes of making it a 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 chance of the IC killing the cop/medic. A mad venture because the other townies will suspect those who are really trying to help of being scum instead of saints, willing to take a bullet for the greater good?
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Postby Mekoot Rowan » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:26 pm

The thing is that it gives the person who claimed it first an equal appearance of being scum.
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Postby Nor » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:14 pm

Unvote: Elohssa
Vote: Melannen
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Postby Horati OTFH » Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:53 pm

UNVOTE: Tuba

VOTE: Abstain
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Postby Elebrim » Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:41 am

Current Vote Tally:

Savetuba: 1
Melannen: 3
Elohssa: 1
Abstain: 2

With 10 Alive, 6 is needed to lynch.
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Postby Mekoot Rowan » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:45 am

unvote: savetuba

vote: Melanen


gotta lynch somebody.
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Postby Juicer » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:08 am

Unvote: Elohssa

Revote: Elohssa


Just to reiterate the fact that my bandwagon is staying the course. And anyone who's anyone should hop on.
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Postby Oisin » Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:07 pm

Elebrim, can we get accurate vote counts please? Your last one has at least one error on it, and a previous miscount led to a lynch without an actual majority.
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Postby Elebrim » Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:29 pm

I double-checked the numbers twice.

Current Vote Tally:

Melannen: 4
Elohssa: 1
Abstain: 2

With 10 alive, 6 is needed to lynch.

*Note: To avoid any more counting confusion, please take the extra two seconds to note "Unvote: <Name>" rather than just putting "Unvote" and leaving it to me to double back and check. Thanks.
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Postby Mekoot Rowan » Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:36 pm

Would the jerkoffs who haven't voted yet kindly stop beating their meat long enough to get to it? If Juicer can do it then so can you. To those abstaining please put a shiv in your eyes you gutless sacks of trash.

Seriously, this game is really starting to suck hard donkey * with all the hemming and hawing. Pick someone or vote abstain and grab a sharp object so we can get on with it and finish this ****.

Oh, and IC that are left: Die in a fire.
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Postby Sir Farrin » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:25 pm

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Postby Oisin » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:40 pm

Juicer wrote:Vote: Elohssa

Oisin wrote:VOTE: Elohssa.


Sorry, not trying to be a * or anything . . .
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Postby Elebrim » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:05 pm

I looked a couple times back over the thread and did not see your vote anywhere, Oisin, though I will take your mention now as a solid vote. With Farrin's, that is three; the rest unvoted or abstained.

Current Vote Tally:

Melannen: 4
Elhossa: 3
Abstain: 2

10 alive, 6 for lynch.
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Postby savetuba » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:58 pm

despite the * ups and finger pointing, we all know mel is scum and can confidently kill him. Then when he is gone Oisin can investigate Rowan or Me or Farrin or Elohssa or Mango or Horati to discover innocence or guilt and inform the rest of us.

VOTE: Melannen
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Postby Mekoot Rowan » Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:17 pm

Now would one more of you other chumps please vote for mellanen so we can get this show on the road?
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Postby Sir Farrin » Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:01 am

UNVOTE ELOHSSA

VOTE MEL
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Postby Oisin » Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:51 am

I suppose that's that, then . . .

Who knows where this will leave us tomorrow.
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Postby Mekoot Rowan » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:01 pm

At this point, who cares?
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Postby Sir_Mel » Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:48 pm

See ya guys, it's been interesting to say the least.



Also, you all fail, just thought I'd point that out.
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Postby Horati OTFH » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:28 pm

Why do you think I abstained?
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Postby savetuba » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:44 pm

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Postby Horati OTFH » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:26 pm

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Postby Elebrim » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:56 pm

And with that, another is dragged to the Gallows. It would have payed them heed to abide by the previous call of innocence. Upon searching his things, it seems that he had nothing connecting him to the Horde, as well.

Melannen, Belegrim, has been lynched.

Night has begun. Please submit all votes by Friday at 8PM EST.
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Postby Mekoot Rowan » Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:11 am

You know, I would have hoped we could have thought of doing something logical like searching his things before we lynched him.

We're all gonna die, and somehow I can't find it in myself to care.
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Postby Elebrim » Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:53 pm

When the morning arrives, the Belegrim wake to another tragic loss: The Horn of Bob has fallen, its healing powers lost to this event.

Farrin, the High Priest of Bob (Cleric), was killed.

Day 5 has begun.
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Postby Oisin » Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:09 pm

Rowan innocent. That leaves us with the question of what the **** is Savetuba, although I'm thinking he may have just been trying to draw away attention from Farrin. Or, he could be mafia.

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I still think Elohssa is a good lynch. We've narrowed it down to four people who could be IC, we really need to get them.

Vote: Elohssa
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Postby savetuba » Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:38 pm

I was trying to make the IC kill me instead of farrin. It didn't work :(

I'd like to know why hasn't anyone bothered with mango yet? He has spoken maybe once in the entire game, yet lived this long. I'd swear he is up to no good. Maybe the smart lynch is mango.
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Postby Juicer » Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:45 pm

Ummm... Oisin? Elebrim is running the game.

On another note, my bandwagon is staying the course.

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Postby Oisin » Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:48 am

Christ, I always think Elohssa and write Elebrim. * you people and having identical names!
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Postby Mekoot Rowan » Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:49 am

Oisin wrote: identical names!


Ummm...I don't think that means what you think it means.

I'm glad you wasted your time investigating me Oisin, that really helps out the villagers.

I still think that lynching tuba is the way to go, but once again noone is going to listen to me. I'm pretty sure that Juicer is also IC and is trying to get us to lynch another villager.

That having been said, I really don't care anymore.

[b]Vote: Elohssa
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Postby Elohssa Y'trid » Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:56 am

Why lynch me, I'm contributing to trying to find IC.


Let's just lynch Mango. Even if he IS just a townie, it's not like we lose anything. It makes sense.


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Postby Oisin » Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:03 am

Actually, Elohssa, we have everything to lose if we miss today, such as the game. Admittedly, I'm not sure how much I care at this point, but hey, it's a game, might as well try and win.

Actually, rereading what I've seen today already, I think that Elohssa and Savetuba are in the Mafia together.
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Postby Elohssa Y'trid » Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:08 am

Having the same (logical) idea means we are both mafia now? C'mon Oisin, you're grasping at straws.


Mango's posted like once, completely avoiding suspicion, hasn't really had to put any votes out there, or any theories, also avoiding suspicion. While it's a lame tactic, I also think it's a very effective one. My vote stands. If Mango is IC, which is likely, then great! If Mango isn't, then it's not like we lose someone that's doing anything.
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Postby Mekoot Rowan » Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:08 pm

Then why ehlossa, Oison? I feel more sure about tuba than I do about ehlossa. Tuba outed our medic, between that and spike being one of the first people bumped off I think we can just lynch tuba.

I think it's important to note that I was all for lynching tuba yesterday but all you d-bags had to fall in line for mellanen whom there was virtually no evidence against.

I'm still * that Oisin wasted a turn on me instead of investigating tuba or farrin. Not that it matters that farrin didn't get investigated.
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Postby Oisin » Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:20 pm

Actually, that was strategic, Rowan . . . think of it this way . . . at this point, with a limited number of people left unspoken for, finding an innocent actually does more than finding a guilty, because a guilty only gives us one result, while an innocent tells us more about several people.
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Postby Elohssa Y'trid » Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:17 pm

Gives us more results about more people....except, you know, who is guilty.
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Postby Mekoot Rowan » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:56 am

So...your strategy involves shoving your head up your own *? You would rather find who isn't guilty than find out who is? Yep, that makes tons of sense.

Our cop is as worthless as law enforcement usually is. We're boned.

Tuba is IC and you don't seem to care, nice.

Ehlossa, I don't care if you are IC, I'm not voting to lynch you just because Oison seems to think it's a good idea.
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Postby Horati OTFH » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:19 pm

Oisin hasn't let me down yet!

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Postby Mekoot Rowan » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:15 pm

And by that I assume you mean he hasn't gotten you strung up like he did to Mellanen.

You know what, I'm done trying to win this game. I'm going to vote for people I know are innocent.

Unvote: Savetuba

Vote: Nor
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Postby savetuba » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:42 pm

So it has been narrowed down to Me, Horati, Elohssa, and mango to being possible IC. So we could assume that one of the remaining 4 is IC, or all 4 of us are IC.

So why trust what the three(four if mango ever talks) of us say? Assume we are all guilty. So that leaves 4 "Innocent" people with a need of 5 to make a lynch. Assuming all 4 of us are IC. There would not be a lynch vote that would succeed against us. But if only one of us is IC then finding that one among four...

I'm sorry that my implied sarcasm made the medic step forward. But if the medic was smart he should have kept quiet and it might have been one of the confirmed innocents that would have died, or One of the untrusted, or it might have been me, though I seem to be too much of a great pawn for the * IC.

Now assume that the cop got a false negative on someone. That could mean Nor, Juicer, or Rowan is an IC member that Oisin couldn't detect. And if such is the case I personally don't like the attitude rowan and horati has. But then, why trust me? Why trust any of us? Why trust Oisin? He could be a godfather for all we know.
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Postby Mekoot Rowan » Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:01 pm

Which is exactly why I'm voting for someone I know is innocent.
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Postby Nor » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:13 pm

Thats not very nice Rowan...I don't appreciate that at all... but as I'm not worried about being lynched I have no reason to defend myself.


Vote: Mango

I think its time for us to look at people who aren't saying much. Just because Mango hasn't said much doesn't mean innocence.

I don't think Tuba and Elohssa are our guys...
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Postby Juicer » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:57 pm

Nor wrote:...I don't think Tuba and Elohssa are our guys...



I do. Tuba is next on my bandwagon list after Elohssa.
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Postby Mekoot Rowan » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:56 pm

Juicer wrote:
Nor wrote:...I don't think Tuba and Elohssa are our guys...



I do. Tuba is next on my bandwagon list after Elohssa.


Can we do them in reverse order? I'll go along with that.
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Postby savetuba » Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:24 pm

Juicer, could you explain how you can to such a conclusion? Or are you grasping at straws?

I'm seriously thinking Rowan and Horati are IC based on what they have said here in the end game. Rowan is trying to get rid of supposed innocents and horati is still using Oisin as a pawn by following along with anything Oisin says and if Oisin is wrong you can't blame the follower.

I'm Still wary of mango.

Nor hasn't done anything to make me think she is IC, though that in its self could mean she is IC, however it is unlikely.

The other concern here is if Mel wasn't the cultist, who is? Assuming we do catch the last of the IC we would still have to catch the cultists to win. And if there is between 1 and 3 IC members left, it would take between 1 to 3 days to lynch them all... If there is only 1 IC then 1 or 2 people will die. If there is 3 IC, then 5 or 6 people will die. We need to be certain on this lynch vote and if you do lynch me for farrin's stupidity, we will be waisting our only lynch to win this game for us.
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Postby Horati OTFH » Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:55 pm

For God's sake! How many times must I repeat myself? I am not IC.
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Postby Mekoot Rowan » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:18 am

Yeah, that pretty much seals it in my mind (as if their were any doubts before) Tuba is IC.

I'm pretty sure I explained exactly why I'm going after innocents. Oison's cleared me, so I don't have to worry about anyone thinking I'm IC, but Tuba still wants me dead. Why is that?

Yeah, it's because he's a murdering * who's been bumping off anyone who comes even close to accusing him.

And yet, I still don't care. Sorry Nor, it's because you're innocent that you have to die.
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Postby Elebrim » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:51 am

Current Vote Tally:

Elhossa: 2
Mango: 3
Nor: 1

With 8 alive, 5 is needed to lynch.

*Note: Those who haven't officially voted: Savetuba, Mango
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